<![CDATA[SoliForum - 3D Printing Community — solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/topic/2740/solidoodle-3-the-plastic-lifts-oh-the-liftings/ 3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!.]]> Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:49:06 +0000 PunBB <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/31139/#p31139 Cool I didn't know about the z offset thing , you learn something new everyday!!!

]]> Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:49:06 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/31139/#p31139 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/31058/#p31058 @RavensCrest, The reason I do that is because it only affects the Slic3r output. When using another slicer such as KISSlicer, it doesn't move the bed down the .3mm before printing the first layer (at least repetier says).  This realization came to me after every KISSlicer print I made stuck to the bed, and every Slic3r one had warping. I was about to give up on making slic3r prints stick!  I still set my Zstop and level my bed using the paper and thumbscrews, but unless the nozzle is right on top (scraping) the bed, the first layer will be slightly more than .3mm thick when using Slic3r. I toally get what you're saying about not trusting the software to do that stuff, the issue is that if I were to adjust the hardware as needed for Slic3r (manually raising the bed another ~.2mm), other slicers then are way too close to the bed when extruding the first layer.

That's just my reasoning for it however, and there are usually many more ways to solve a problem than one.

]]> Fri, 26 Jul 2013 14:21:07 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/31058/#p31058 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/31054/#p31054 @Coaster19, you need bed hand screws...  i don't trust the software offset. I always use leveling screw and Zstop screw to get that paper thickness height.
and yes, i ran into that problem with glass too... (before it snapped) poor glass quality... that's why i never try thicker glass... but I don't see people with thicker glass complaining about glass chipping away..

]]> Fri, 26 Jul 2013 13:30:28 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/31054/#p31054 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/30956/#p30956 I was having similar problems, and no matter how much ABS-acetone mix, hairspray and tape I put on my glass plate, it would not stick.  The problem turned out to be that Slic3r was using a z-offset value of 0mm, which means that the first layer was printed afer moving the z stepper down .3mm, leading to bad adhesion.  After changing it to -.2 in slic3r, My prints stick really well.  So well, in fact, that yesterday, even after trying ice to de-stick the part, a piece of the glass broke from the plate and is actually stuck to the part.

In slic3r go to Printer Settings -> General -> Z offset:, and change the value to -.2 or something close to that.

Once this change is made your first layer MUST be thicker than the offset value, which isn't a problem if using the Solidoodle default profiles (.1mm profile has .3mm first layer).

]]> Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:33:09 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/30956/#p30956 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/26098/#p26098 i use 4-5mm brim..

//Matte

]]> Wed, 12 Jun 2013 17:07:19 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/26098/#p26098 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/26070/#p26070 erens wrote:
RavensCrest wrote:

how large is your brim? mine is about 1.5 to 2mm

I have tried up to 1.5mm

on which layer are you experiancing the warp/ lift?

]]> Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:15:39 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/26070/#p26070 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/25908/#p25908 Good question Matt, I should have been more clear. I plan on sandblasting them with a bead blaster. I have zero desire to etch with chemicals.

]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:07:03 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/25908/#p25908 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/25907/#p25907 Regarding etching of glass ... wouldn't a wet sanding with 25micron grit (or something coarser) accomplish the same thing while avoiding chemicals?  Or am I missing something?
Matt

]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:57:35 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/25907/#p25907 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/25900/#p25900 I think I remember reading an article that said paper clips and pens the number one stolen items from corporations.

Anyway, I like the mirrors because it's fun to see the extruder extrude....

I think I paid, two bucks each? I did pick up a sheet of bora glass that I plan on etching for use with non ABS filaments.

]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:31:30 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/25900/#p25900 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/25897/#p25897 erens wrote:
Briggs wrote:

What was recommended to me was glass (i use 8x8 mirror from Joann) and hair spray (aquanet). Use those little binder clips to hold it on. Take glass off of bed after print with a cloth to protect you from heat. Wait five minutes (or less), and the parts just pop! off. Simple. Easy. Works every time for me.

Thanks for this! I had been reading about people using glass but wondered exactly what they were using, I'll snag some binder clips from work as well


If you can't make it, steal it! That's what I always say. Just kidding.

Oven mitts work well for removing the glass with the print from the heated bed. Plus they look cool.  I went with a slightly more expensive route and got 8x8 borosilicate glass sheets. You don't generally have to worry about heating and cooling rates under 150C with this glass. (No shattering glass from thermal shock) http://airwolf3d.com/store/products/bor … ass-plate/ (I am sure a quick google could come up with cheaper pricing)

They are also like 10 times the price. I think as long as you don't have any little kiddies around and you don't mind running the risk of having some glass break, whatever you get from Joann's should be fine.

]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:57:14 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/25897/#p25897 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/25891/#p25891 Briggs wrote:

What was recommended to me was glass (i use 8x8 mirror from Joann) and hair spray (aquanet). Use those little binder clips to hold it on. Take glass off of bed after print with a cloth to protect you from heat. Wait five minutes (or less), and the parts just pop! off. Simple. Easy. Works every time for me.

Thanks for this! I had been reading about people using glass but wondered exactly what they were using, I'll snag some binder clips from work as well

]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:16:40 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/25891/#p25891 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/25890/#p25890 RavensCrest wrote:

how large is your brim? mine is about 1.5 to 2mm

I have tried up to 1.5mm

]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:15:38 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/25890/#p25890 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/25881/#p25881 What was recommended to me was glass (i use 8x8 mirror from Joann) and hair spray (aquanet). Use those little binder clips to hold it on. Take glass off of bed after print with a cloth to protect you from heat. Wait five minutes (or less), and the parts just pop! off. Simple. Easy. Works every time for me.

]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:42:33 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/25881/#p25881 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/25871/#p25871 how large is your brim? mine is about 1.5 to 2mm

]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:17:16 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/25871/#p25871 <![CDATA[Re: solidoodle ->3<- the plastic lifts, oh the liftings!]]> https://www.soliforum.com/post/25852/#p25852 Thanks Guys,
I will give those both a try

]]> Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:44:38 +0000 https://www.soliforum.com/post/25852/#p25852