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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [MOD] Rod replacement for ultra-precise 50 micron (0.050mm) Z layers!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>osmanharac wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>lawsy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I will double check the sizes of everything when I get home and post if it is different.</p><p>On another note my ballscrew has arrived from China and I&#039;m machining the end to suit the coupling this afternoon.</p></blockquote></div><p>I know this is an old post but any updates on it?<br />I also think about using ballscrew for x and y and would love some feedback if you did it.<br />thanks</p></blockquote></div><p>I ordered a ballscrew from aliexpress, excellent quality (for my use at least) and all my problems with the z-axis went away. Also a lot faster to move the z axis now. Recommended <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/10012/sd4-with-ballscrew-for-zaxis-installed/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/10012/sd … installed/</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2015 12:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lawsy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I will double check the sizes of everything when I get home and post if it is different.</p><p>On another note my ballscrew has arrived from China and I&#039;m machining the end to suit the coupling this afternoon.</p></blockquote></div><p>I know this is an old post but any updates on it?<br />I also think about using ballscrew for x and y and would love some feedback if you did it.<br />thanks</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [MOD] Rod replacement for ultra-precise 50 micron (0.050mm) Z layers!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I figured that but the 2267.7 number thing surprised me pretty cool.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 17:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jjcuff1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This math threw me off I had to pull out excel, lol</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, I did the math right but typed it wrong.</p><p>[200 steps/rev]*[16]/[.8mm/rev]=4000 steps/mm.</p><p>Dimensional analysis. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 16:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Since on the topic:</p><p>The X and Y are driven by the same 6MM bore pulley and a pitch diameter 11.5mm (outside path)</p><p>So 3200 steps in the servo</p><p>Pi*D = distance of pulley <br />11.5*3.14 = 36.36mm</p><p>3200 steps / 36.36 = 88steps/mm</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 16:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [MOD] Rod replacement for ultra-precise 50 micron (0.050mm) Z layers!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>lawsy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Not sure what you mean. Original steps was 2268, new rod 4501.</p><p>The exact amount will change depending the pitch of the thread.</p></blockquote></div><p>200steps/rev times 16 microsteps/step times 0.8mm/rev (assumes M5-0.8 thread) yields 4000 steps/rev, not 4501</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>This math threw me off I had to pull out excel, lol</p><p>1: the steps per rev is simple<br />200*16 = 3200 steps/rev&nbsp; (not in my case I have 1/32 steppers so I get double <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Then this is fun math I made the 4501 mistake and got the same results right and wrong way <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />Lets get to the default 2268 steps per mm in marlin.</p><p>Your above math is confusing because you say times .8mm/rev. Because 3200 * .8 = 2560 steps ok. I was like wait that is only marginally better then the 5/16-18 so I backed into that</p><p>First _ did 18threadspi / 25.4 convert to mm = .708</p><p>ok so the stock sd is .708 so what is 3200 * .708 = 2267.7!!!! wow ok<br />So same math applied to .8 step = 2560 is this right? No right but what gives?</p><p>So what if I divided the 3200 by the pitch (thinking i had inverted wrong somewhere) <br />3200/.707 = 4515!!! ok so maybe that was mistake above. Still wrong right</p><p>SO I converted the 18threads per inch wrong! OK so what, here is the twist.<br />1/18 then = 0.055 inches per thread then convert to MM</p><p>0.055 x 25.4 = 1.411 pitch for the stock rod</p><p>so lets go back to stock conversion:</p><p>3200 / 1.411 = 2267.7</p><p>3200 * .708&nbsp; = 2267.7!!!</p><p>both give exact same numbers even though .708 is wrong. Since if you applied this to another rod (steps x pitch you would be off)</p><p>So stock is:<br />3200 / 1.411 = 2267.7</p><p>And 5M-.8</p><p>3200 / .8 = 4000</p><p>But on my sure stepper I have</p><p>6400 / 1.411 = 4535</p><p>for upgrade<br />6400 / .8 = 8000!!!!!</p><p>I am a dork sorry for the rant</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Man that ball drive looks heavy duty and way over kill (load wise) will the servo drive it might need more holding torque or change your steppers out to keep them from overheating?</p><p>I assume it is super precise as well, how many steps will that give you?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 16:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>i think this spyder type coupler is better because of the &quot;no Z lag&quot; of the mount</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v1/587510612_1/6-35x8mm-CNC-Motor-Jaw-Shaft-Coupling-6-35mm-to-8mm-Flexible-Coupler-D20L30-12984.summ.jpg" alt="http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v1/587510612_1/6-35x8mm-CNC-Motor-Jaw-Shaft-Coupling-6-35mm-to-8mm-Flexible-Coupler-D20L30-12984.summ.jpg" /></span></p><p>just to find one in 5mm-5mm.. cost more</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 14:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just found some nice aluminum coupler avaliable dirt cheap in china: <a href="http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-5-x-5mm-CNC-Motor-Jaw-Shaft-Coupler-5mm-To-5mm-Flexible-Coupling-07-23186/737473121.html">http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-5-x- … 73121.html</a><br />That should give some better results, than ABS. Will post back,when it arrives (parcels to russia are damn slow)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 06:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: [MOD] Rod replacement for ultra-precise 50 micron (0.050mm) Z layers!]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/BallScrews-with-detail-insets.jpg/300px-BallScrews-with-detail-insets.jpg" alt="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/BallScrews-with-detail-insets.jpg/300px-BallScrews-with-detail-insets.jpg" /></span></p><p>One of these as a replacement for the threaded rod. I&#039;m very happy with the M5 replacement however, so fitting this will be a low priority.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 20:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/21994/#p21994</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Lawsy what is the ball screw for/ you mean a ball screw threaded rod?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 15:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Jonathan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Are there .stl files for the coupler and the bed attachment? I am eager to try this out my self!</p></blockquote></div><p>Take the rod_mount.stl from the very first post. Print twice and you have the coupler.<br />Then, see my linked post for my custom bed nut holder. It is designed for 12x12x12mm custom machined nut, but there is the openscad design at my github, so you can adjust to your liking. The linked post also has instructions for custom nut machining.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 16:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Are there .stl files for the coupler and the bed attachment? I am eager to try this out my self!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Jonathan)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2013 15:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I will double check the sizes of everything when I get home and post if it is different.</p><p>On another note my ballscrew has arrived from China and I&#039;m machining the end to suit the coupling this afternoon.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 02:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>M4 comes in .7, I wonder if someone didn&#039;t give you the wrong size?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2013 23:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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