SoliForum - 3D Printing Community — Filastruder's impact on the filament market

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (IanJohnson) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:49:28 +0000

Much of the ABS filament sold for printing is made from Chei Mei PA747 which is made in China, though it might be extruded in the US depending on the seller. Most PLA is from Natureworks which is in Nebraska.

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (elmoret) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:32:26 +0000

wizardtakax wrote:

My brain took a break, I meant, domestic manufacture, not just distributing of pellets from abroad. Unless we manage to over throw the petrol-cartels and push hydrogen infrastructure, then it wouldn't matter where the pellets come from, since the carbon foot print will all be the same the world over.

As far as I know, Sabic MG94 (what OSP and I are distributing) is made in the US. I buy it from Sabic Americas, Inc. which manages sales, marketing, business development, manufacturing, and research and technology throughout the Americas.

I know their warehouse is in North Carolina. Hope that helps!

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (wizardtakax) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 20:03:11 +0000

Staffordknot wrote:

How do you mix colours in abs? I thought you bought high density dye tablets but how does that work with the hopper? Or can you buy died pellets?

Pigmented pellets, also known as master batch is a mixture of chemical colorant and specific polymer you choose to work with, be it pla, abs, pc, pe, pu, pva, pp, pvc or any number of other synth'd plast. Just remember to always make sure you are working with matching master batch type with base plastic, to keep melting point of said plastic balanced.

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (wizardtakax) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:52:34 +0000

My brain took a break, I meant, domestic manufacture, not just distributing of pellets from abroad. Unless we manage to over throw the petrol-cartels and push hydrogen infrastructure, then it wouldn't matter where the pellets come from, since the carbon foot print will all be the same the world over.

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (Staffordknot) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 17:29:46 +0000

How do you mix colours in abs? I thought you bought high density dye tablets but how does that work with the hopper? Or can you buy died pellets?

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (elmoret) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:19:39 +0000

cckens wrote:

Lots of weighing and bag transfer in your future, I see.

That's what friends are for!

Luckily I don't have to weigh each bag - just use the same size measuring cup. It's not bad, I can do about 4 bags a minute which is 400 bags over the course of a movie. I think the most tedious part is knocking out nozzles on the drill press, though I made a jig for that.

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (cckens) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:13:37 +0000

elmoret wrote:

Not at my house - they won't do residential addresses. A friend of mine runs a body shop, I'm having it delivered there (in 55lb bags) and picking it up with my Frontier.

Lots of weighing and bag transfer in your future, I see.

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (elmoret) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:10:47 +0000

IanJohnson wrote:

Tim, is a truck and forklift going to show up at your house? I've never ordered 1000lbs of anything.

Not at my house - they won't do residential addresses. A friend of mine runs a body shop, I'm having it delivered there (in 55lb bags) and picking it up with my Frontier.

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (IanJohnson) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:52:51 +0000

Tim, is a truck and forklift going to show up at your house? I've never ordered 1000lbs of anything.

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (AdamMcCallister) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:02:06 +0000

ouch i'd say that is an issue. Are you partnered with them? Ive no idea on you official situation. I have to admit i saw the filastruder a while back and only just realized you created it, and it was also the first i heard of them. Have you thought about just changing the name to include theirs? or selling it through their website only?

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (elmoret) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 04:22:39 +0000

store.osprintingllc.com, for starters. You can also buy from eBay, and companies like Sabic directly. I have 1100lbs of MG94 coming in this week.

It worries me that people know about the Filastruder but not OS Printing...

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (wizardtakax) — Tue, 30 Apr 2013 01:42:11 +0000

elmoret wrote:

Huh? There are already domestic pellet suppliers.

Not that I am aware of, just saying getting domestic supply of pellets is a corner stone to self reliant printing. Maybe some one who passes this thread will be the first to take this step.

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (elmoret) — Mon, 29 Apr 2013 21:52:22 +0000

Huh? There are already domestic pellet suppliers.

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (wizardtakax) — Mon, 29 Apr 2013 20:00:12 +0000

Alibaba returns for plastic Pelletizer, lowest quote, $500-2500 and monstrous machines topping out around $180000... but with a backyard foundry and lost pla casting, one could be made for around a grand plus the huge amount of time for designing all the unique parts to be printed, then you'd also want a wood gasifier to make bio crude to further refine plastics from said hydrocarbon goop.

Re: Filastruder's impact on the filament market

null@example.com (wizardtakax) — Mon, 29 Apr 2013 19:47:12 +0000

China or the supplier I am talking to is in Indonesai I think. The truest goal would be to get domestic pellet distribution going but commercial pellet makers start around $2000 let me double check that figure.brb.