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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Skipping Y and X axis]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/17648/#p17648</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m having the same problem but only in the X direction.</p><p>seems that it&#039;s not a carriage sticking thing, but an overheating thing.</p><p>it seems that sometimes commands sent to the X carriage are just ignored. (so pressing home all I&#039;ve had Y home, Z home and X not move until I&#039;ve pressed it a few more times).</p><p>this random ignoring commands sent to the X axis really messes up models..</p><p>I&#039;ve recently added heatsinks to the pololu drivers, and I think that I might have been able to print for a bit longer before this problem showed up.</p><p>I also put a large C Clamp onto the X stepper (which gets hot) and found that heat sinking this might help also...</p><p>but of a loss as to what to do now!!</p><p>I suppose I need to get a fan and do some active cooling of the electronics rather than just the passive cooling, maybe the same on the steppers</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (danny)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 17:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Skipping Y and X axis]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/17619/#p17619</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I am having the same problem printing from an ARM tablet (check <a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/solidoodle/aW0n2ml42yo">here</a>. I did some troubleshooting and I suspect there is a problem with USB voltage levels.</p><p>Can you try printing from a different computer?</p><p>In any case, check the trimpot voltages and see if they are in the correct range. Please post back because I&#039;m also very interested in how the situation evolves.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Rincewind)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Skipping Y and X axis]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/17580/#p17580</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Good point about the forums, I guess I should have placed this thread there.&nbsp; Do you know how to move threads?</p><p>I don&#039;t think it is a flowrate problem.&nbsp; It seems to be purely an offset issue.</p><p>Also, I think it is just on the Y axis, as the only time it messed up on the X axis was when I was fiddling with it during troubleshooting, so that problem may have been my fault.</p><p>I have another print as seen below.&nbsp; This is supposed to be the thumbscrew piece:</p><p>soliforum.com/topic/242/thumbscrew-to-level-bed-from-beneath/</p><p>As the pictures hopefully show, it went fine for about 20 minutes, then the Y axis offset started shifting, forward at first, then back toward center for the last few layers.</p><p>The layers themselves seemed to be fine, they just get laid down at different Y offsets.</p><br /><p>I think you might be right about the board overheating.&nbsp; I modified my cover to only cover the build area and leave the board/spool in the back exposed.&nbsp; This time it got 20 minutes into the print before the problem occurred vs. the usual 5 mins.&nbsp; So, I am going to try printing&nbsp; for 5 minutes, pausing, waiting for it to cool, and the resuming.&nbsp; If that fixes the problem, I know it is temperature buildup in the control system.</p><p>Also, I have a 5 Volt fan from an old laptop that would fit perfectly and cool the board.&nbsp; Do you know where on the board I can tap off 5 V?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Trevor.James)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Skipping Y and X axis]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/17568/#p17568</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Trevor, Hard to tell from the pics, but if the extruder is overextruding it will print just fine until the printhead builds up too much extra plastic for the hotend to &#039;push&#039; its way over... that would explain both x and y axis losing steps. Below are a couple of links to Ian&#039;s site on how to calibrate the extruder.</p><br /><p><a href="http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/extruder-calibration/">http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/201 … libration/</a></p><p><a href="http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/setting-the-flow-rate/">http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/201 … flow-rate/</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (ronsii)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Skipping Y and X axis]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/17566/#p17566</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>It is generally better to post these kinds of questions in the Help/Repair section - we are happy to help out, but it just keeps things organized better that way.</p><p>There are various causes for skipping.&nbsp; If both x and y are shifting, it may be a communications or electronics problem.&nbsp; Mechanically, they are not really interdependent so it is strange that they would both simultaneously act up.&nbsp; It may be worthwhile to try printing on a completely different PC to see if something is interrupting the software periodically, or something is wrong with the USB connections, etc.</p><p>I had an issue recently with y-axis skipping which was created by the stepper driver overheating.&nbsp; To fix it, I just pointed a PC fan at the board, and the problem disappeared instantly.&nbsp; Some people have previously reported skipping issues related to board communication dropouts when it overheats.</p><p>I would definitely suggest trying to cool your board down.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Skipping Y and X axis]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/17526/#p17526</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Shut off the power and move the carriage all the way x and y.&nbsp; If it is not smooth, you need to clean and lube the rods as well as adjust the belt tension.&nbsp; the y axis belts have to have the same tension or it will jam.&nbsp; the machine doesn&#039;t know if it lost its place(open loop) and it will keep going out of place until homed</p><br /><p><a href="http://wiki.solidoodle.com/tutorials">http://wiki.solidoodle.com/tutorials</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (pcpoirier)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Skipping Y and X axis]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/17522/#p17522</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have included a picture of the latest failure</p><p>Also included is what those layers are supposed to look like.</p><p>It seems to be printing the layers fine, it is just shifting the offset with each layer for some reason.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Trevor.James)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Skipping Y and X axis]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>So,</p><p>I am using my Solidoodle 3 for printing the first time today.&nbsp; After a bunch of problems with not sticking to the plate, I finally figured out how to calibrate my level, and set the first layer depth properly.&nbsp; So things are looking good there.</p><p>I now have found a new problem.&nbsp; My print head will just randomly offset itself during the print.&nbsp; It will print perfectly for the first 10 layers, then it will offset on the Y axis and try printing the rest of the layers 8 mm to the front.&nbsp; This of course results in the extruding ABS just going everywhere but where it should.&nbsp; I thought it was just a Y axis problem until my X axis just jumped about 30 mm to the right as I was trying to troubleshoot.</p><p>I don&#039;t think it is a mechanical problem.&nbsp; A loose belt might result in slippage and get a few mm offset, but not 30 mm straight to the right.&nbsp; I think there is a loose cable, or something weird going on with the electronics that is sending false info to the motor.</p><p>It might also be a dropped command.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know how the code is written, but does it work like this?:<br />Sent commands:<br />-forward<br />-left<br />-right<br />-back<br />-next layer<br />-forward<br />-left<br />-right<br />-back<br />-next layer<br />-forward<br />-left<br />-right<br />-back<br />-next layer<br />-etc.</p><p>Because if so, missing out on one of the -back commands would cause the entire thing to start printing offset by whatever that back distance should have been.&nbsp; I don&#039;t know if this is the problem, but I know it isn&#039;t mechanical and since I am an ME, where my expertise ends.</p><br /><p>Has anybody ever run into this problem and know what causes it or how to fix it?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Trevor.James)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2013 04:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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