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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Too slow]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I am extruding Eastar PETG at 200C, 2.85mm. I can do 2lbs in about 5 hrs or so. I love this PETG, I have used close to 110 Lbs. over several years. There are some subtle/easy mods that I have done to the Filastruder to achieve this, Just let me know if you want to start a dialog. It has been a long time since I have.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (richh001)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Oct 2019 14:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Too slow]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>oliveiraha wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>To add more info: <br />As said in the manual about the STALL BOARD:</p><p>Blue: Indicates motor is drawing between 10% and 99% of the current limit. This is normal. <br />Green: Indicates motor is drawing less than 10% of the current limit. This is possible if the motor is not driving a load.</p><p>Mine is always in green.</p><p>12u in 11.9u out 0.8a 10p</p></blockquote></div><p>If you&#039;re drawing 0.8A, and that is less than 10% of the limit you have set (which needs to be limited to 1.6A) I would think if anything you need to go back and make sure your current limit is set to 1.6A.</p><p>Are you set on a specific resin (haven&#039;t seen you mention what you are using)?&nbsp; Even among plastic types some extrude much faster than others.&nbsp; Eg, if you are wanting ABS you&#039;re going to find MG94 extrudes much quicker than a lot of other types of ABS.&nbsp; PLA generally extrudes slower for me than anything else.&nbsp; PETG shoots out of there like greased lightning (but at the same time PETG can easily break things too if your stall limit isn&#039;t set currently - it tends to be very viscous).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (genesat1)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 20:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Too slow]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#039;t say anything about increasing the current limit, you should not increase the current limit.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (elmoret)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 00:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Too slow]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>oliveiraha wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>12u in 11.9u out 0.8a 10p</p></blockquote></div><p>If you&#039;re not nearing the torque limit (which is 1.6 amps, so you&#039;re at half of it), you could increase voltage to the motor to increase speed - but this will wear the brushes faster.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>So, I&#039;ll try to reach close to 1.6a and see if the speed increases. To do it, I must turn clockwise the cc how many times more than 15?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (oliveiraha)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 02:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Too slow]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>oliveiraha wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>12u in 11.9u out 0.8a 10p</p></blockquote></div><p>If you&#039;re not nearing the torque limit (which is 1.6 amps, so you&#039;re at half of it), you could increase voltage to the motor to increase speed - but this will wear the brushes faster.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (elmoret)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 00:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>oliveiraha wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Carl, the temperature I think is working well.<br />At 189-195°c I got 1.7mm white coloured<br />At 200-215 I got 1.5mm light grey<br />At 220-235 I got 1.3mm grey</p></blockquote></div><p>This is what I&#039;d expect, at higher temperatures you&#039;re cooking the plastic.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (elmoret)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 00:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>oliveiraha wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Elmoret, which motor do you recommend for this upgrade? Also any other suggestions?</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t recommend upgrading the motor, because the barrel&#039;s yield strength is not a whole lot higher. The whole machine was designed around certain parameters, torque being one of them.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (elmoret)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2019 00:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Too slow]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>To add more info: <br />As said in the manual about the STALL BOARD:</p><p>Blue: Indicates motor is drawing between 10% and 99% of the current limit. This is normal. <br />Green: Indicates motor is drawing less than 10% of the current limit. This is possible if the motor is not driving a load.</p><p>Mine is always in green.</p><p>12u in 11.9u out 0.8a 10p</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (oliveiraha)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2019 19:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Too slow]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Carl, the temperature I think is working well.<br />At 189-195°c I got 1.7mm white coloured<br />At 200-215 I got 1.5mm light grey<br />At 220-235 I got 1.3mm grey</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (oliveiraha)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2019 14:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Too slow]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Elmoret, which motor do you recommend for this upgrade? Also any other suggestions?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (oliveiraha)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2019 14:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Too slow]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Heat is not a limiting factor, motor power is. You can upgrade the motor, but the torque limit of the barrel is not much higher than the motor itself.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (elmoret)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2019 12:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>oliveiraha wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The motor is 15.6 kgf with 8rpm. What if I upgrade?</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>I am pretty sure the motor is not your issue. It most likely is heating. The filastruder can&#039;t generate enough heat to extrude at a higher rate. </p><p>Just like when you print, the filament acts as a heat sink and sucks heat away from the hotend. that faster you print the faster this happens and it why we have to raise the temps at higher print speeds. </p><p>Same holds true for making filament as well. The extruded filament is pulling heat away from the system. Like we mentioned you either need a better system that can meet your demands, or more machines that can do the same.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (carl_m1968)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2019 01:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The motor is 15.6 kgf with 8rpm. What if I upgrade?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (oliveiraha)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2019 01:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Too slow]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Or invest in a flabot&nbsp; <a href="https://www.filabot.com/products/filabot-original-ex2">https://www.filabot.com/products/filabot-original-ex2</a></p><br /><p><a href="https://www.filabot.com/products/ex2-bundle">https://www.filabot.com/products/ex2-bundle</a></p><p>a bit more money than the filastuder&nbsp; but more capability advertised at about 2lb per hour </p><p>An option not pressure.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Tin Falcon)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2019 00:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Too slow]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>oliveiraha wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>To make filastruder operational for me, i need 2kg/day, but i&#039;m getting 1kg of filament each 17 hours at 195 ºC.</p><p>PID is set as automatic.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Then buy another. Just like printers the Filastruders have a max speed and if it is not fast enough then you just have to buy more.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (carl_m1968)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2019 22:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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