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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Filawinder servo mod idea]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ever thought of using a rotary encoder to keep track of the position?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2019 11:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Filawinder servo mod idea]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Made another discovery.<br />I can activate the motor exactly when spool is rotated and control how long motor is activated. This limits the movement of the guide system based on delay time set.<br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>Locate:    
guide_angle = (guide_angle + 1.17); }     //Move the guide +1.17 degree for 1.75mm filament
Change it to:
guide_angle = (guide_angle + 1.17);
    digitalWrite(A4, HIGH);   //Activate Guide Motor because spool has rotated
    delay (2000);             //Adjust delay to make motor move less or more per spool rotation
    digitalWrite(A4, LOW);    //Stop Guide Motor
    }     //Move the guide +1.17 degree for 1.75mm filament</code></pre></div><p>I now want to simplify the design somewhat. 4 relays to deal with is little too much but its working like a charm especially after making it trigger at the servo part of the code.<br />Here is what it looks like.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?0j9iawp.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?0j9iawp.jpg" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2019 03:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Filawinder servo mod idea]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Got new board. Figured out the firmware. Figured out the relays setup and designed printable box for it.<br />All i have left to do is to print the box mount it next to the filawinder.<br />Here is the relay setup i will use.<br />1st relay is reversing motor polarity.<br />2nd relay triggers that reversal<br />3rd relay is controlled by firmware, it activates and deactivates the motor that pushes the guide left/right.</p><p>No more SERVO crap.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?mfOHM50.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?mfOHM50.jpg" /></span><br />Also changed firmware slightly, so it will not constantly trigger for no reason.<br />if (thisspeed&lt;30) {digitalWrite(A4, LOW);} //added line<br />if (thisspeed&gt;30) {digitalWrite(A4, HIGH);} //added line<br />These two lines will make it work as expected.<br />Constant triggering was caused by minimumPullerSpeed 20. It means motor was constantly engaging.<br />Instead of making it 0, i added condition</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (tonycstech)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Filawinder servo mod idea]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Got it. 12v relay module takes 0.38A. Gotta take it straight from the power jack but that will start getting hot because on top of 0.4A i get 0.1A from board and then there are 2 motors which will quickly create problems.</p><p>You siad: &quot;use the original single module It uses a latching relay&quot; thats not true in my case. It seems to work exactly the same way as the 2 channel relay.<br />For that reason i ordered a relay that toggles position by momentary switch instead of triggering position by momentary switch.<br />I need self locking relay. That kind of relay cost 2-3 times the normal. About $7 piece vs $3 (talking about US ebay prices)<br />Those relays have ECU on board that allows that behavior. Anything else is a no go.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (tonycstech)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jul 2019 00:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tonycstech wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have 2 5v relays.<br />Same problem.<br />They dont toggle. They switch back as soon as you let go the switch.<br />Also motor is not powered at all using your diagram. I had to rewire it.<br />1,6 needed ground and 3,4 12V. 2,5 motor the same.</p><p>Now for some reasons arduino nano is dead. It wont reset, it wont flash, it wont work.<br />Had to order new board.</p><p>My question now is: once i get new board, do i just flash it with firmware or i need bootloader 1st ?<br />I need some step by step for bootloader please.</p></blockquote></div><p>You may be sinking too much current through the control pin. It is only good for about .25 amps at the most. The board may or may not come with a bootloader. They usually do but depending on the vendor and price there is a chance it may not. The text about on the vendors page should say, or you could just ask the vendor. </p><p>In that circuit the motors get power through relay but like you said the buttons have to be pressed to enable the ground for it to work. Again though the latching relays should solve that issue.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (carl_m1968)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2019 20:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have 2 5v relays.<br />Same problem.<br />They dont toggle. They switch back as soon as you let go the switch.<br />Also motor is not powered at all using your diagram. I had to rewire it.<br />1,6 needed ground and 3,4 12V. 2,5 motor the same.</p><p>Now for some reasons arduino nano is dead. It wont reset, it wont flash, it wont work.<br />Had to order new board.</p><p>My question now is: once i get new board, do i just flash it with firmware or i need bootloader 1st ?<br />I need some step by step for bootloader please.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (tonycstech)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2019 18:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tonycstech wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Seriously ?<br />Momentary switches DO NOT toggle reversal, they activate it momentarily.<br />I need it to be toggled each time its pressed.</p><p>I was so excited&nbsp; thinking: I cant believe i didnt know this ! but then i realzed that i already tried it and posted all the way at the top that its not going to work.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>This is why I said to use the original single module It uses a latching relay so it would stay latched till the next switch was hit.&nbsp; You not only over think but over complicate by trying to put all your eggs or all your parts on one board. </p><p>You would need two of course.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Seriously ?<br />Momentary switches DO NOT toggle reversal, they activate it momentarily.<br />I need it to be toggled each time its pressed.</p><p>I was so excited&nbsp; thinking: I cant believe i didnt know this ! but then i realzed that i already tried it and posted all the way at the top that its not going to work.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (tonycstech)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The diodes need to stay on the dual module. They protect the module from the surge caused by the coil being de-energized. If you removed them, put them back on exactly like they are in the picture of the module. Once you do that use the below diagram using the dual module and report back. SW1 and SW2 are the limit switches at each end of the unit travel. </p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?aQfzr8B.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?aQfzr8B.jpg" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2019 11:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Each channel is switched individually by connecting either 8 or 9 to 7 Gnd.<br />Is that what you need to know ?</p><p>I tried following your diagram.<br />Pretty sure i did it all right but its not working.<br />As soon as ground touches the coil, i get short circuit if diodes present.<br />Without diodes i basically get relay to trigger. I dont understand how grounding the coil through momentary switch would be any different.</p><p>Also its kinda hard to follow your diagram with the relay i have. I think i got the pins correct. Correct me if am wrong.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?HQSetXW.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?HQSetXW.jpg" /></span><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?nVAd9Li.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?nVAd9Li.jpg" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2019 02:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tonycstech wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Easier said then done. I am a mechanic, not an electrical engineer like most of you. Some programming experience and basic electrical knowledge got me this far but not far enough to understand your setup with diodes.<br />Can you, using my picture, give each pin # a description ?<br />Thank you.<br />I&#039;d rather use your system them mine. Mine is too complicated as i overthink allot of things in life including this.<br />This IS a 12V relay by the way.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?kXUn6j4.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?kXUn6j4.jpg" /></span></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Do you have two of the single relay modules? The issue is that this double module requires and active low to trigger it while your circuit is designed around an active high. Meaning the dual is switched by ground while the single is switched by power. It would be easier to use the single modules if you have two.</p><p>The dual module is designed to be operated by pins of and Arduino. Those pins need to switch to ground instead of power.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (carl_m1968)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2019 00:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Easier said then done. I am a mechanic, not an electrical engineer like most of you. Some programming experience and basic electrical knowledge got me this far but not far enough to understand your setup with diodes.<br />Can you, using my picture, give each pin # a description ?<br />Thank you.<br />I&#039;d rather use your system them mine. Mine is too complicated as i overthink allot of things in life including this.<br />This IS a 12V relay by the way.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?kXUn6j4.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?kXUn6j4.jpg" /></span></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (tonycstech)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2019 00:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The switches are momentary and if you use your arduino latching relays it should work perfect&nbsp; believe. </p><p>Just follow the diagram and use two of the Arduino relays. The blue connector is marked as it needs to be in your image. Just picture the entire module as a relay and&nbsp; then use my drawing. The ground and 5 volts will hook up to the modules input as you have it now. The only difference in my drawing and you can omit it are the diodes across each relay. Your module has those diodes already.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2019 22:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>carl_m1968 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The below image is a circuit that should allow you to do what you want and needs no logic to control it. Once it is started it should run by it&#039;s self. This is for 12 volt relays but there is no reason any other voltage can&#039;t be used. Just substitute 12 voltage line for whatever voltage you need.</p></blockquote></div><p>Are those switches momentary or they have to be pressed/flipped ?<br />Can you word the process so i can understand it better ?<br />I am using arduino relay modules. <br />Thanks !</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (tonycstech)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2019 19:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>What @carl_m1968 said, nice write up!!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2019 14:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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