yizhou.he wrote:

hmm. I learned cryons and puppet expression today after Google it.

I think what you really out of data. I'm only convensed by data.

based on the way you spell a whole plethora of words (convinced, crayons. etc) not to mention the grammar you should stop trying to one up every one

I did not start all these, I only response to criticism to my post and defend the data and source of information I provided.

My English is limited, and if it cause misunderstood I always make correction and apologize for it. But I try to make sure the information I provided are as accurate as possible to my knowledge. If I'm trying to one up anybody, the following will be an example:

I would never heartlessly recommend FT-5 without mention it's famously missing parts, Take long time to build, and 12V heated bed takes long time to heat to 60C.

http://www.soliforum.com/topic/14957/folgertech-ft5/

http://www.soliforum.com/topic/16800/fo … -r2-build/

I have never ever went through so much trouble to build a 3D printer, this is way more trouble and waste more time than RAMPS conversion of Da Vinci Jr. It only end up with noisy low printing quality but print fast and big build volume.

heartless, that meme is heartless. You are better than this.

Kronikabuse, yizhou's poor spelling and grammar should be taken as a sign that he is intelligent enough to learn at least two languages. How many do you speak?

No need for personal attacks folks.

Thank you very much for your support.

Kronikabuse, yizhou's poor spelling and grammar should be taken as a sign that he is intelligent enough to learn at least two languages. How many do you speak?

No need for personal attacks folks.

hmm. I learned cryons and puppet expression today after Google it.

I think what you really out of data. I'm only convensed by data.

based on the way you spell a whole plethora of words (convinced, crayons. etc) not to mention the grammar you should stop trying to one up every one

hmm. I learned cryons and puppet expression today after Google it.

I think what you really out of data. I'm only convensed by data.

I am not "out of data" as you put it - I am just tired of wasting my time. I have better things to do.
You come across as a fool spouting garbage, and full of self-importance.
You think you know what you are talking about, but with every post, you prove you don't.
But hey, it is a free country, go right ahead, knock yourself out.

I think what you really out of data. I'm only convensed by data.

OOooooo - a whole 4 months... wow!
I have been using a genuine E3D for over 2 years. come back and talk to me after you have had yours that long.

the real E3D does not sell on Amazon, Alibaba or eBay... so someone has co-opted the name.

https://e3d-online.com/resellers

I only had it for 4 months, I bought 7 and only used 4, none of them have give me any issue so far.  With $60, I can buy 9-10 of them, even if everyone only last 4 month, that will be 36 month or 3 years. I have not see any signs of damage or decrease in print quality, I'm sure someone will make me keep you guys updated.

the E3D on Amazon is "Sold by 3DMakerWorld and Fulfilled by Amazon. Gift-wrap available."
3DMakerWorld is "Genuine E3D Reseller" in USA according to the link you posted above.

https://www.amazon.com/E3D-All-metal-Ho … ywords=E3D

https://www.amazon.com/sp?_encoding=UTF … asStoreID=

Kronikabuse wrote:

he loves his clones

How is this $60 E3D V6 produced by E3D sold by amazon not real E3D V6?

https://www.amazon.com/E3D-All-metal-Ho … rds=E3D+v6

The E3D V6 clone I uses cost $7 including shipping and it works great! I have not get single jam for 4 month now, and printing quality is great. I don't know how good real E3D can be, but all I need is good enough, not the best in the world!

Yes, I love my E3D clones!

OOooooo - a whole 4 months... wow!
I have been using a genuine E3D for over 2 years. come back and talk to me after you have had yours that long.

the real E3D does not sell on Amazon, Alibaba or eBay... so someone has co-opted the name.

https://e3d-online.com/resellers

he loves his clones

How is this $60 E3D V6 produced by E3D sold by amazon not real E3D V6?

https://www.amazon.com/E3D-All-metal-Ho … rds=E3D+v6

The E3D V6 clone I uses cost $7 including shipping and it works great! I have not get single jam for 4 month now, and printing quality is great. I don't know how good real E3D can be, but all I need is good enough, not the best in the world!

Yes, I love my E3D clones!

yizhou.he wrote:

I seriously thought about this option, if order from Amazon:

The frame will cost $120
The board+Motor driver and LCD $70
5X NEMA 17 Step motor $60
Z axis rod + XY axis belt + pully $60
Screws $20
Wires $20
DuPont kit $20
E3D V6 HotEnd + Fans $60
Heated bed + glass $70
Power Supply $55
Total:$555

So, if you have issue with order from aliexpress and buy Chinese clones, you will end up spend more money than buy the kits.

If you order from aliexpress, it will take long time to arrive, you can buy much better model board + motor driver + LCD, and you can control the cost under $350 and will end up with many extra parts (For cheap parts, buy extra in case some of them have quality issues). You will have to deal with customer service if item don't arrive on time. (You will have to deal with customer service about missing parts if you buy FT-5 kits also based on multiple people's experience posted online.)

1. an E3D for $60 is NOT a genuine E3D.. If you are going to buy one, at least buy the real thing.
2. the list of stuff you have given totals MORE than the cost of the kit,
3. and you have not taken into account the cost of the filament, nor the time and energy to print the parts you are talking about printing...
4. the kit has EVERYTHING you need to build the printer and get it running. There is NOTHING that "has" to be added to make it functional.

Therefore, your "plan" is flawed...

This is the kit under discussion in this thread... https://folgertech.com/products/folger- … rinter-kit
Take note of the price... $499.00

As far as dealing with FolgerTech customer service - they are fine to deal with. It is a very small company and as such, is much more amiable in their approach to things than an overseas supplier ever thought of being.

God! No one actually read the post! I did said he will end up end up spend more money than buy the kits! I don't see how this sentence can make people misunderstood!

I seriously thought about this option, if order from Amazon:

The frame will cost $120
The board+Motor driver and LCD $70
5X NEMA 17 Step motor $60
Z axis rod + XY axis belt + pully $60
Screws $20
Wires $20
DuPont kit $20
E3D V6 HotEnd + Fans $60
Heated bed + glass $70
Power Supply $55
Total:$555

So, if you have issue with order from aliexpress and buy Chinese clones, you will end up spend more money than buy the kits.

If you order from aliexpress, it will take long time to arrive, you can buy much better model board + motor driver + LCD, and you can control the cost under $350 and will end up with many extra parts (For cheap parts, buy extra in case some of them have quality issues). You will have to deal with customer service if item don't arrive on time. (You will have to deal with customer service about missing parts if you buy FT-5 kits also based on multiple people's experience posted online.)

1. an E3D for $60 is NOT a genuine E3D.. If you are going to buy one, at least buy the real thing.
2. the list of stuff you have given totals MORE than the cost of the kit,
3. and you have not taken into account the cost of the filament, nor the time and energy to print the parts you are talking about printing...
4. the kit has EVERYTHING you need to build the printer and get it running. There is NOTHING that "has" to be added to make it functional.

Therefore, your "plan" is flawed...

This is the kit under discussion in this thread... https://folgertech.com/products/folger- … rinter-kit
Take note of the price... $499.00

As far as dealing with FolgerTech customer service - they are fine to deal with. It is a very small company and as such, is much more amiable in their approach to things than an overseas supplier ever thought of being.