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Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (Tin Falcon) — Wed, 14 Aug 2019 01:42:12 +0000

I have been wanting to install aluminum corner brackets for a while. Folger tech seems to be almost always out of stock on them .Mc Master Carr wants something like $11 each for corner brackets and $13 for t brackets. So a couple weeks agao I picked up some 4 ft lengths of 1/8 x 4" x 4ft aluminum cut it on the chop saw and drilled holes oin it. then I felt like I needed to make a matching control panel .

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (heartless) — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 14:36:03 +0000

just take note that the current aluminum 713Make X carriage (extruder mount) is NOT compatible with the CNC add-on.

If the CNC kit becomes popular, then I would expect them to create a new piece that would be compatible, but at this time, it is not.

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (pap4tinker) — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 02:17:06 +0000

Cool, thanks for the information.

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (Tin Falcon) — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 01:52:50 +0000

No it is an aftermarket product

http://713maker.com/ft5.html
You will not find a titan at Folger either they are here:
https://printedsolid.com/products/e3d-titan-aero

https://www.filastruder.com/products/e3 … ruder-aero

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (pap4tinker) — Sat, 22 Jul 2017 01:13:19 +0000

What's a 713 extruder mount? Folgertech sells it?

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (heartless) — Fri, 21 Jul 2017 23:33:33 +0000

in stock form you "should" be able to run some PETGs ok, but nylon will require an upgraded hotend, no ifs, ands or buts

I believe max temp for the stock hotend is about 245-250, so.. (i upgraded mine to a Volcano, but have since taken that back off - see below)

I have one of the CNC kits - in the process of installing, but "life" has kind of gotten in the way of finishing that project... it is no "easy" task, either. you have to completely disassemble the X carriage to install the CNC head.

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (Tin Falcon) — Fri, 21 Jul 2017 21:47:41 +0000

IIRC it will print petg stock . I installed a e3d titan. so that would handle nylon .
You may want to order some of the aluminum corner plates . I have thought about this but is as far as i have gotten. the make 713 extruder mount is a popular upgraded to consider.
And you may want a better power supply these seem to be a weak spot. I had one that the fan switch was not connected and my buddy had an out of box failure on one. They will replace any bad or missing parts as long as you build in a timely manner and document .

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (pap4tinker) — Fri, 21 Jul 2017 20:21:05 +0000

Ok, so I'm now starting to piece together the information I need to order and build one of these beasts! I have a question for you guys, have you printed with PETG and or Nylon? I assume it should do the PETG ok because the filament I was looking at recommends 230 - 250C. I usually print at a lower temp than the max reccomended on the ABS and PLA I have so I see no trouble with that. But the nylon spec is up to 270C, so I was wondering if anyone has printed much with Nylon or PETG and your results.
Any recommendations for me before I order the kit, like extra items to have on hand for upgrading?
Has anyone installed the CNC kit that was supposed to be available for this machine? I didn't check if it was available yet.

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (heartless) — Thu, 04 May 2017 13:31:14 +0000

Tin Falcon wrote:

Heartless :
I am sure the super-nights are fine for any 8" cube printer.
OK A super-night 12 V 30 Amp is $ 33 a same rated Meanwell is about $ 12 more
so I am pay more for a name brand with a 2 year warranty and I am paying more for more power output and my supplier is a bit closer so a little less lead time and lower shipping . I am getting a better power supply , with more power a two year warranty shipped basically over night at ups ground rates. IMHO a good value.

you are running the same basic components on the FT-5 as on an 8" cube... so, imho, that argument is moot.
I would not hesitate to use the Supernight power supply on my FT-5.

Is the Meanwell actually "better"? Who says it is? Meanwell? Of course they are going to claim that about their own product.

The Supernight is/has been proven to work, and work well, in 3d printers - not just by me, but by others, too.

But yeah, ok, whatever... to each their own...

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (Tin Falcon) — Wed, 03 May 2017 23:41:48 +0000

same guts but 4 different brands.

Yep have seen this as well.In many industries. The problem is having to choose a power supply when there are many choices an labels a and the price ranges from $13 to over 300 for a ps of the "SAME " Specification. I think most will select middle ground . Hard to know at what point the component number, specifications and quality gets better.

Meanwell also has a high performance model that is about twice the price of what i bought.

I would like to think the name brands have at least some QC/QA in place.

Meanwell and Superbrights as well as many others are all made in the same factory with the same parts.

So both good names to look for!!

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (carl_m1968) — Wed, 03 May 2017 23:22:28 +0000

Tin Falcon wrote:

Heartless :
I am sure the super-nights are fine for any 8" cube printer.
OK A super-night 12 V 30 Amp is $ 33 a same rated Meanwell is about $ 12 more
so I am pay more for a name brand with a 2 year warranty and I am paying more for more power output and my supplier is a bit closer so a little less lead time and lower shipping . I am getting a better power supply , with more power a two year warranty shipped basically over night at ups ground rates. IMHO a good value.

Just a little FYI, the Meanwell and Superbrights as well as many others are all made in the same factory with the same parts. I repair and rebuild network power supplies and rectifiers for a living. We see this all the time where we will have the same rectifier/power supply, same case, and same guts but 4 different brands.

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (Tin Falcon) — Wed, 03 May 2017 22:30:46 +0000

Heartless :
I am sure the super-nights are fine for any 8" cube printer.
OK A super-night 12 V 30 Amp is $ 33 a same rated Meanwell is about $ 12 more
so I am pay more for a name brand with a 2 year warranty and I am paying more for more power output and my supplier is a bit closer so a little less lead time and lower shipping . I am getting a better power supply , with more power a two year warranty shipped basically over night at ups ground rates. IMHO a good value.

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (heartless) — Wed, 03 May 2017 13:32:45 +0000

you could have saved a few dollars (and supported a great small business, too) and ordered this one:
https://www.printitindustries.com/colle … wer-supply

I have these on both of my SD4s - no problems at all.

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (Tin Falcon) — Wed, 03 May 2017 00:19:07 +0000

Have been doing a few prints. Tuned the stepper drivers to recommenced ref volts.
I have been a bit concerned with the power supply on this unit. NO Name Chinese PS Rated at 360 watts . IMHO marginal for printer with a roughly 144 in ^2 bed.
Then I see this photo on the FT forum.
So the concern level rises. then after a couple hours of printing I am getting some high temps on the case the fan is not coming on
The fan should come on at an internal temp of 45 c I did some more testing and printing and the fan is not coming on. . With a case temp of about 50C as measured with HF IR thermometer and a HF thermocouple on a multi meter.
So in the interest of safety reliability and some reserve power:

i ordered mean well SE-450-12

https://www.trcelectronics.com/View/Mea … 0-12.shtml

Re: New FT-5 Cube style printer.

null@example.com (Tin Falcon) — Sun, 16 Apr 2017 00:37:00 +0000

There is always more to be done but happy with this build.
The .8 nozzle makes things more reasonable with the larger print envelope.
And my friend that lent a hand has ordered his own.