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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Printit Industries new Mica Heatbed install on SD4]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks for the kind words and glad to hear you&#039;re happy.</p><p>FYI: I cleaned up the double post for you <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Ooops - sorry about that... internet was being weird this morning. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>and yes, I am very happy with the heat beds - they work extremely well and I can actually use the entire bed now, instead of trying to stay away from the outer 1 inch or so.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Printit Industries new Mica Heatbed install on SD4]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words and glad to hear you&#039;re happy.</p><p>FYI: I cleaned up the double post for you <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>And another update...</p><p>I had purchased a 2nd bed heater for my #2 SD4, but hadnt gotten around to installing it - until today... running the PID tune on it now to stabilize the temps, and it will be fully functional. </p><p>Using the stock aluminum bed this time, heat-up times are MUCH lower than on #1, with it&#039;s thicker bed. </p><p>Still loving this bed heater! printing all the way to the outer edge of the bed is no longer a challenge! <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> prints stick the same there as they do in the middle. </p><p>Well done Guys! Thanks for a GREAT product!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2016 18:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Printit Industries new Mica Heatbed install on SD4]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/124927/#p124927</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>heartless wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just an update on using the Mica heater - Still loving this thing! It works so well I have actually been able to lower the set point and still get excellent adhesion when printing ABS. </p><p>I used to set the bed to 100C with the old bed heater and would still occasionally have problems - with the Mica heat bed, I am currently running at 90C (with even faster heat up times) and actually thinking about lowering a little more. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> A very happy camper, I am. Well worth the investment.</p></blockquote></div><p>+1</p><p>I too have found that I can actually run a lower bed temp: 10-15 degrees cooler, depending on the filament I use.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t make any firmware changes for the thermistor, and didn&#039;t reinstall the fiberglass insulating blanket on the bottom.&nbsp; The PrintIt heater also heats very evenly to the edges of the bed.&nbsp; When I removed the original Solidoodle heater, I saw why I had problems with large builds!</p><p>-Kevin</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Printit Industries new Mica Heatbed install on SD4]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/124925/#p124925</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just an update on using the Mica heater - Still loving this thing! It works so well I have actually been able to lower the set point and still get excellent adhesion when printing ABS. </p><p>I used to set the bed to 100C with the old bed heater and would still occasionally have problems - with the Mica heat bed, I am currently running at 90C (with even faster heat up times) and actually thinking about lowering a little more. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> A very happy camper, I am. Well worth the investment.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>yeah, it is nice, isnt it? <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Now, just need one in a bigger size for my new toy... 12&quot; x 12&quot; please? hehe</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2016 12:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Love the difference in temp regulation</p><p>Stock:<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?GipXgfU.png" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?GipXgfU.png" /></span></p><p>Printit:<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?CTdXCJo.png" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?CTdXCJo.png" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2016 08:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Here is my first heat test with my new printit heatbed <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> stock plate on top + glass. Currently no insulation under <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?HiSwnpI.png" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?HiSwnpI.png" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2016 07:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>heartless wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One thing I did not realize right away was that the thermistor needs to be changed in the firmware for accurate temp reading - it uses table 5, just like the E3D hotends (stock uses table 1).</p></blockquote></div><p>Can you tell me how you found it uses 5? looking at the specs &quot;Thermistor Type: NTC 100 kOhm&quot; I would think it would use table 8 &quot; 8 is 100k 0603 SMD Vishay NTCS0603E3104FXT (4.7k pullup)&quot;</p><p>I honestly have no idea how these work. I just noticed when I was updating the firmware that number 8 said 100k and NTC <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2016 07:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I do have a LOT of thermal mass there to heat up... I am sure that has at least a little to do with the time...but that thicker aluminum plate has not warped, even a little bit. hehe</p><p>the first larger print on it went pretty well - once I got the temp stabilized. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> </p><p>the piece is right at 6 in long, 3 in wide, and about 5/8 in tall - had tired printing a couple of times before and the narrow end kept warping and popping off the build plate. fairly sure the variation in bed temp had something to do with that...</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?MhiJF0b.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?MhiJF0b.jpg" /></span></p><p>actually ended up rotating it to point at the other front corner, and moved it back slightly to get it away from the door gap (&amp; airflow)<br />Now that I have that one out of the way.... the rest of the order should go smoothly - smaller parts. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 14:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Nice! I have to wonder if it&#039;s the thicker aluminum or the mirror glass that makes our heat up times so different, but either way, you should have much more consistent temps across the surface compared to stock. Let us know how some big prints go!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 13:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>ok, bed PID enabled (for sure this time, lol), PID tune run, numbers updated... and the latest heat graph from this morning (15min zoom, regardless of what the screen says, lol. they really should fix that)...</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?kXESkHi.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?kXESkHi.jpg" /></span></p><p>running right at the 10.5minute mark for time starting at about 24C to 100C (still no insulation under the bed) and I now have a nice, flat line - no more wobbles in the heat profile. yay!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 13:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>jagowilson - thank you <strong>very much</strong> for sharing that screenshot...</p><p>I <em>thought</em> that bed PID was enabled, but after comparing lines between your screenshot, and my copy of the firmware, apparently it wasnt... =P<br />I will be correcting that little issue shortly (printer is currently running - for another hour &amp; a half)</p><p>oy-vey... it is the little things that trip us up, LOL</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2016 23:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/123177/#p123177</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>One other note, make sure MAX_BED_POWER is 255 when you check to make sure PIDTEMPBED is enabled. This is what your Configuration.h should roughly look like. This is from Marlin-1.1.0-RC3, but any Marlin should look about the same. <span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?TFSeFSa.png" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?TFSeFSa.png" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2016 22:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Looking much better. Did you for sure uncomment &quot;#define PIDTEMPBED&quot; in Configuration.h? Your power output graph looks more like bang-bang than PID. See mine for reference. (I&#039;ve been printing TPU all day and am now switching to ABS, which is why you see lower temperatures in the graph). If PID tuned properly, there should be absolutely no wobble in the bed temperature. Mine will stay stable and hardly fluctuate 0.01c over several hours of printing. I see your temperature curve has a sine-wave pattern, which is expected with bang-bang but not PID. I was able to attain this same level of temperature precision with the stock bed, as well. </p><p>The more stable the temperature is, the less warping trouble you will have. Changes as low as 0.5c can have a dramatic effect on part appearance and adhesion.</p><p>Note: There&#039;s a bug in Repetier Host where it always says &quot;Past 60 Minutes&quot; even if you use a different time scale. I showed my time scale in the image (10 minutes) to make this clear.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?Boe3GA2.png" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?Boe3GA2.png" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2016 21:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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