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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SD3 Noob: Random Y Shifting]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>IanJohnson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It might be the motor.&nbsp; You can check that it is getting the right voltage - <a href="http://www.solidoodle.com/how-to-2/troubleshooting/">http://www.solidoodle.com/how-to-2/troubleshooting/</a> (the section about the stepper chips).</p></blockquote></div><p>As far as I know any kind of shifting will either be the motor or the belts / set screws.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SD3 Noob: Random Y Shifting]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It might be the motor.&nbsp; You can check that it is getting the right voltage - <a href="http://www.solidoodle.com/how-to-2/troubleshooting/">http://www.solidoodle.com/how-to-2/troubleshooting/</a> (the section about the stepper chips).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SD3 Noob: Random Y Shifting]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>JJ, are you plugged into a USB 3.0 port?</p><p>Sounds like this guy had the same problem...</p><p><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/1625/layers-moving-during-printing/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/1625/lay … -printing/</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SD3 Noob: Random Y Shifting]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Before you pack it all away, can I just suggest one little test.</p><p>The best way I have found to check for slack/backlash/loose screws/play in the X axis is to simply grab the collar on the stepper motor and turn the motor by hand (make sure the motors are off, even so it is quite stiff). You only need the tiniest of movement on the motor end and then look at the pulleys or carriage. You should see the instant you start to move the motor that the farthest point turns, for the X axis I just use the front pulleys as reference as they are easiest to see. <br />Just rock the motor back and forth and it should be pretty obvious if you have a problem.<br />I have been able to reduce errors in a number of places by doing this as you can clearly see where the problem is.</p><p>Clearly this won&#039;t highlight if the is a sticking point on a shaft but it you at least make sure you test the motor over one turn and that everything moves as it should you can be sure the printer is trying its best to move where it is being told. <br />I guess if you wanted to manually check for sticking points you could undo the setscrew on the motor, the carriage should move freely (I&#039;ve never had to do this yet) and you would then be able to feel for any tight points as you spin the pulley on the motor shaft. You would be able to feel a pinch point much easier by hand rather than using gauges or measurements.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SD3 Noob: Random Y Shifting]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/15754/#p15754</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok I am about to ask for a refund this thing is not a DIY it is POS so unreliable.</p><p>I have removed the y axis rods, tensions, testing lube set screws deburr rods, rotate them everything. the thing flows effortlessly I have set my tension front and back of the carriage both sides within .1&quot; deflection of each other tight and loose. I removed the z nuit put it back z wobble etc. I have gone over 1 week and half a spool of plastic and every print around 8 now maybe 20 layers just blows up the model. It will look perfect then bam immediately starting the next layer it shifts back and back.</p><p>I set it again etc and it will shift plus/minus a few layers. no way the rod align,ent is this sensitive or I f up this much for a week. It runs and looks better then I remember it new. back rod doesnt shift the cal cubes are dead on. I give up yet again anotehr wasted night with I thought success only to have my last 2 models be totally the worst ones again.</p><p>I wills et flow rates again and relevel the bed again, maybe I am missing something</p><p>but anyone have idea if SD will take a refund? or take this back and fix it?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2013 06:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SD3 Noob: Random Y Shifting]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve had trouble with burrs on the rod caused by set screws.&nbsp; There was one pulley that wouldn&#039;t slide on the rod unless I used a screwdriver and a hammer to give it a tap.&nbsp; Once it slid over a little it would spin, and once it rotated a little it could slide back over that spot on the rod without catching on the burr.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (IanJohnson)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 15:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SD3 Noob: Random Y Shifting]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>They appear to be together. I just re checked them and dialed the left to right a little more. Definitely made it a little more free. I left tension alone just as a trial error process, gonna reprint same model and see.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 14:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Actually you can&#039;t switch them.&nbsp; The back pulleys have a 6mm bore and the idler pulleys are all 5mm.&nbsp; If you can turn the collars independent of the pulleys, then they are broken.&nbsp; I would be surprised if they were all broken like that, but it only takes one.&nbsp; Solidoodle needs to send you new ones, make sure they understand it is the back 6mm pulleys.&nbsp; Send at least 2-3 copies of the same email, because they apparently gmail loses them all the time.</p><p>If you want to get the pulleys on your own, these will work - <a href="https://sdp-si.com/eStore/PartDetail.asp?Opener=Group&amp;PartID=42395&amp;GroupID=347">https://sdp-si.com/eStore/PartDetail.as … roupID=347</a></p><p>They are MXL pitch timing pulleys with 18 teeth, 6mm bore, 2 flanges and hub. about $5 each.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 07:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SD3 Noob: Random Y Shifting]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Is it just one of the pulleys that you can spin this way or several? All of the pulleys on the printer should be the same (pulley fixed hard to collar) </p><p>Sorry I just realized the back three pulleys have an ID of 6mm the rest have 5mm ID, So if one of yours is slipping the only thig is try to glue it or call SD to get a replacement.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jjcuff1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>really? I can spin the collars without the pulleys and seperate them</p></blockquote></div><p>That may be the cause of your problems. They are supposed to be fixed together, the whole idea is so you can tighten the setscrew on a shaft and the belt will not lose position relative to the shaft. Since these collars are aluminum and the pulleys are composite they are pressed together and usually glued with some sort of loctite.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: SD3 Noob: Random Y Shifting]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I can seem to be able to control my y offset by the belt tension but I can not get dialed in. meaning I pause print adjusts and look good for /5-1&quot; of print the steps forward I can adjust and get it back to previous offset but thing as far as the first offset. and it is visible about 1/8&quot; or more every 1/2&quot;<br />what doesn&#039;t make sense it looks great during each offset and when i ge the last offset good,stop start a new print it works and I have to reverse loosen vs tighten to pull it back</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>really? I can spin the collars without the pulleys and seperate them</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (jjcuff1)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>the collars are part of the pulleys and hence why people are refering to them as the pulleys.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>yes all 3 collars have set screws but the black pulleys do not and they are not keyed</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The back rod with the three &#039;toothed pulleys&#039; or whatever you want to call them - all three of them have setscrews if they do not then they are missing. If any one or more of these setscrews are loose there WILL be problems. The freespooling or idler toothed pulleys do not have setscrews, these are located on the front of the printer and also on the right side of the print carriage.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/eIQJlDb.jpg?1" alt="http://i.imgur.com/eIQJlDb.jpg?1" /></span></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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