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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/123059/#p123059</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes that is the only drawback to using this method. But other than that it is perfect.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 16:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Do you just manually shut the bed heater off when the print is done?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2016 16:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>carl_m1968 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>sandcub1971 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well I decided not to mess around with using a relay off of my board. Instead I bought the setup in the link as it is a self contained unit with controller and all. And it runs 110VAC. It should be delivered today but I wont get a chance to install it until this weekend. Will let you know how it works.<br /><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/271835537775?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&amp;ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT">http://www.ebay.com/itm/271835537775?_t … EBIDX%3AIT</a></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Make sure you set your firmware and host to no heated bed installed if using an external controller. Orherwise it will be looking for a thermistor and fail.</p></blockquote></div><p>Heres an update. I installed it and did not worry about changing my firmware. All I had to do was shut off the heated bed in my simplify3D software and BOOM works like a dream. As far as time to warm up, can you say less than 1 min to get to 110 bed temp. That&#039;s faster than my hotend <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />. I will be ordering another heated pad for my larger bed. It just works perfectly.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2016 04:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Will do thank you</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 19:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Will do thank you</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (sandcub1971)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 19:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sandcub1971 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well I decided not to mess around with using a relay off of my board. Instead I bought the setup in the link as it is a self contained unit with controller and all. And it runs 110VAC. It should be delivered today but I wont get a chance to install it until this weekend. Will let you know how it works.<br /><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/271835537775?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&amp;ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT">http://www.ebay.com/itm/271835537775?_t … EBIDX%3AIT</a></p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Make sure you set your firmware and host to no heated bed installed if using an external controller. Orherwise it will be looking for a thermistor and fail.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well I decided not to mess around with using a relay off of my board. Instead I bought the setup in the link as it is a self contained unit with controller and all. And it runs 110VAC. It should be delivered today but I wont get a chance to install it until this weekend. Will let you know how it works.<br /><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/271835537775?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&amp;ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT">http://www.ebay.com/itm/271835537775?_t … EBIDX%3AIT</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (sandcub1971)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2016 16:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>AC has a Neutral/ground side and a Line/load side. all switching and fuses go on the Line side not the neutral/ground side on 115v single phase current. since neutral normally has no power applied to it unless building circuits share a neutral in a junction box back to breaker panel that has multiple phases or 220 etc. some old commercial buildings done this and if the other circuits loose their neutral they find it through the others sharing it which leads to backfeeding 220v to the other 110v appliances and burning them out. been there done that.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes please run line or hot to the SSR this leaves neutral intact.<br />Then be smart and use a ground cord and connect a ground wire to the chassis and the metal of the build platform.&nbsp; If that heater ever burns through the frame becomes the circuit.&nbsp; That&#039;ll bring a whole new definition to the word HOT!!!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2016 03:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sandcub1971 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>carl_m1968 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>sandcub1971 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thank you for your quick response. I did not know I could run the 110 with a relay controlled by the board. If you have a diagram I would be very grateful to see it. Hopefully I can start picking up stuff next month and get on to bigger and better prints.</p><p>Thanks</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>It&#039;s not pretty but it gets the idea across.. As Ward said this does use 120VAC so there is some risk so please be careful, add fuses, and make sure connections are well insulated. The output to the bed from the controller normally does not matter the polarity. But in this application you will need to know which out to the bed is positive and negative and connect them to the SSR accordingly.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?ZzZ6Ugh.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?ZzZ6Ugh.jpg" /></span></p></blockquote></div><p>Ok thank you for the diagram, The main thing I wanted to know is to put the relay on the positive or negative side of the circuit, but you covered that in your drawing. its on the negative side.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>It does not really matter since with AC there is really no negative side..&nbsp; But to be safe I would actually have the relay interrupt line side. That way there should be no power assuming correct household wiring at the heater when the relay is off.. Connect neutral straight through.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2016 01:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>carl_m1968 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>sandcub1971 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thank you for your quick response. I did not know I could run the 110 with a relay controlled by the board. If you have a diagram I would be very grateful to see it. Hopefully I can start picking up stuff next month and get on to bigger and better prints.</p><p>Thanks</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>It&#039;s not pretty but it gets the idea across.. As Ward said this does use 120VAC so there is some risk so please be careful, add fuses, and make sure connections are well insulated. The output to the bed from the controller normally does not matter the polarity. But in this application you will need to know which out to the bed is positive and negative and connect them to the SSR accordingly.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?ZzZ6Ugh.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?ZzZ6Ugh.jpg" /></span></p></blockquote></div><p>Ok thank you for the diagram, The main thing I wanted to know is to put the relay on the positive or negative side of the circuit, but you covered that in your drawing. its on the negative side.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2016 01:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sandcub1971 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thank you for your quick response. I did not know I could run the 110 with a relay controlled by the board. If you have a diagram I would be very grateful to see it. Hopefully I can start picking up stuff next month and get on to bigger and better prints.</p><p>Thanks</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>It&#039;s not pretty but it gets the idea across.. As Ward said this does use 120VAC so there is some risk so please be careful, add fuses, and make sure connections are well insulated. The output to the bed from the controller normally does not matter the polarity. But in this application you will need to know which out to the bed is positive and negative and connect them to the SSR accordingly.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?ZzZ6Ugh.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?ZzZ6Ugh.jpg" /></span></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (carl_m1968)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2016 23:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s not really a one is better than the other issue.&nbsp; The Rumba in my opinion will take more abuse due to the robust design.&nbsp; It has both header pins and screw terminals for the important things, making it more versitile.&nbsp; The Azteeg boards have some reported issues that can only be attributed to quality control issues.&nbsp; Although I&#039;m guessing most of that has been resolved.&nbsp; The Rumba isn&#039;t without its flaws either.&nbsp; The 16u2 (USB chip) has been known to end up with corrupt .hex file that can only be corrected with a programmer.&nbsp; Like the Azteeg I feel that issue has also been resolved.<br />Since both of these boards are really remarkable performers.&nbsp; The question is will they fulfill your long term goals?&nbsp; Maybe you need to be looking into 32 bit boards like the Smoothie or Azteeg X5 or Duet.<br />Given your list of requirements in the OP, if it were me I&#039;d go with the Rumba and DRV8825 drivers all around.&nbsp; Even if I had no plans to run the X,Y&amp;Z axis at 1/32.&nbsp; The DRV8825&#039;s will take some serious abuse.&nbsp; I can only speak to genuine RRD Rumba and DRV8825&#039;s as there are plenty of clones floating around out there.<br />Hope this helps.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2016 21:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Carl is right, that&#039;s how I run my bed heaters.&nbsp; I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a diagram floating around here somewhere.&nbsp; But I may suggest that if you aren&#039;t certain about a mod like this, you maybe should proceed with extreme caution.&nbsp; <br />The azteeg x3 is a good board as is the Rumba and both will do what you are looking for.&nbsp; And although I am a huge fan of the X3 I think for this application the Rumba would be a better solution.&nbsp; It simply has more options and they are similarly priced.&nbsp; Makerfarm sells the Rumba.</p></blockquote></div><p>&nbsp; </p><p>So what is the advantage of the rumba over the x3. If I look both up it appears that the x3 can support up to 8 steppers( 3 extruders, 2 z, 1 x, 1 y and 1 more for something else) and dual heated beds, the rumba says 5 steppers? Or is it a case of easier to use?&nbsp; I am not against any board at this time, just want to get as much info as I can on the advantages and disadvantages. Thanks Wardjr</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2016 19:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: thoughts on printer board]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Oh, firmware setup for both is simple and straightforward.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2016 19:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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