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			<title><![CDATA[Re: (SD4)Very messy prints... Possibly my settings?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>The placement of the crack suggests an X axis problem. I have never seen this before to be honest. I&#039;m thinking too much belt tension and too many wraps of tape on the bearings.</p><p>Heartless does bring up a good point about the idler brackets, though. If one is slacking, the other side would be taking up the slack in performance. This may cause damage to the carriage in the rod ports. Since the top portion of Lawsy&#039;s design for the right carriage relies on correct tension (and my theory of bearing diameter pressure), it may develop a crack over time.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2016 01:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>that could very well be the source of you binding problems. </p><p>check your Y idler blocks too - mine had cracked, creating all sorts of problems.</p><p>if you need assistance with printing replacements, just ask - or you could order some from <a href="http://www.printitindustries.com/collections/printed-parts">http://www.printitindustries.com/collec … nted-parts</a> <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 13:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: (SD4)Very messy prints... Possibly my settings?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok so I may or may not have found a problem. Idk if its related to my X binding problem. But my left Y carriage (idler pulley side) is cracked. Which might cause this wobble I was talking about.<br />My carriage didnt come like that, and idk how long it was like that or what caused it. odd. but here is a vid of the wobble and crack.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/2amMJHp.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/2amMJHp.jpg" /></span></p><p><div class="fancy_video_tag_player"><iframe class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="385" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7NGrD8xrS1M" frameborder="0"></iframe></div></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (takadakeyo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2016 04:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: (SD4)Very messy prints... Possibly my settings?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And there&#039;s no wires or anything getting bound up when it&#039;s near the back?<br />Then all I can guess is y carriages are so tight that the X rods are getting distorted from some strange pressure.&nbsp; So how is the motion of X when it is near the back moving it by hand?<br />That or the wires or connections for the X motor have an issue when in that area.</p></blockquote></div><p>I doubled checked and there doesnt seem to be any thing getting hit, pulled or bound up while it moves back.<br />When I move it by hand in the back it feels like same as I move it by hand in front. Same amount of resistance and feel.</p><p>One thing I noticed when I removed my whole X extruder/carriages, there was wiggle between the two Y carriages. Like if I just moves one Y carriage it can move 1cm back and forth and the other wont move. When I noticed this, I didnt do this aggressively incase I would ruin the carriages, but just something I noticed. Is that normal or bad? </p><br /><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>My thought would also be misaligned X rods. They can get pretty torqued up in there and out of shape if the holes are really tight. You could also have the belts off by a tooth or two, which is causing the X gantry to be out of square with the rest of the machine.</p></blockquote></div><p> </p><p>Is there a way to make sure that the belt&#039;s teeth arent off?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (takadakeyo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2016 02:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>My thought would also be misaligned X rods. They can get pretty torqued up in there and out of shape if the holes are really tight. You could also have the belts off by a tooth or two, which is causing the X gantry to be out of square with the rest of the machine.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>And there&#039;s no wires or anything getting bound up when it&#039;s near the back?<br />Then all I can guess is y carriages are so tight that the X rods are getting distorted from some strange pressure.&nbsp; So how is the motion of X when it is near the back moving it by hand?<br />That or the wires or connections for the X motor have an issue when in that area.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2016 22:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: (SD4)Very messy prints... Possibly my settings?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Maybe you need to post a video of the X axis as it skips.&nbsp; <br />A fan on the board that cools the drivers and a heat sink on the motor or even a fan will help.</p></blockquote></div><p>Ok so I noticed that it only binds in the back thirds of the print bed. When I move it close to the front of the print bed it moves smoothly and not so much noise. but as I move it back, it binds. </p><p>Maybe its a over heating problem then? Sometimes, but very rarely, it will move okay in the center, but only about 3 or 4 times then bind again and only moves when I move it closer to the front.</p><p>If I can get my printer working long enough, the fan attachment will be top priority for sure.</p><p><div class="fancy_video_tag_player"><iframe class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="385" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/dLhbe3kuWzg" frameborder="0"></iframe></div></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (takadakeyo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2016 21:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you need to post a video of the X axis as it skips.&nbsp; <br />A fan on the board that cools the drivers and a heat sink on the motor or even a fan will help.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2016 04:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: (SD4)Very messy prints... Possibly my settings?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That won&#039;t hurt anything.&nbsp; The question is when you move it by hand, does it move smoothly?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes it moves smoothly and pretty easily, just as smooth as easy as moving my Y. and with the belts off it moves extremely easily and smooth. Much easier than stock, my stock use to need one hand holding my machine down when sliding or would move the whole printer. So its easy to move compared to that, but thats all I have to compare it with. haha</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (takadakeyo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2016 04:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>That won&#039;t hurt anything.&nbsp; The question is when you move it by hand, does it move smoothly?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (wardjr)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2016 03:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I hope you are referring to the grub screw on the motor pulley and not one on the idler pulley.</p></blockquote></div><p>yes the one on the motor pulley. My idler pulley didnt come with a grub screw in it and I never put one in, because I read I didnt need it? idk haha</p><p>But here&#039;s a photo </p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/LHmRjLm.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/LHmRjLm.jpg" /></span></p><p>You can see that my belt on the idler pulley side is higher. Could this be why I have constant binding problems? <br />I line up the belt straight, but as I move my X carriage left and right, one side will always move up and down. So Im guessing that one of the pulleys is just a hair at a angle? just a theory of course and not even sure if this tiny difference is why I get binding.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (takadakeyo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2016 02:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I hope you are referring to the grub screw on the motor pulley and not one on the idler pulley.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (wardjr)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2016 00:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok so sadly I was not able to print the retraction cube test because my X motor is binding like crazy again. This time I cant even move it in manually. Even with my VREF set to the highest, it doesnt move. I loosened my belt and can move it with the motors off smoothly and easily. </p><p>One thing I just noticed is that my X belt is not level between the two pulleys and when I move my carriage by hand the belt on the pulley (motor side) moves up and down by about 1mm or 2. The pulley doesnt move but the belt does. So Possibly this is why i have so many binding problems?</p><p>I saw the solidoodle Y belt leveling video (I couldnt find one for the X belt) but I applied the same thing about loosening it and moving the carriage left to right a few times to let the pulley line up its self, and thats where I tightened the grub screw.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/119122/#p119122</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I will take this moment to thank you for your willingness to research.&nbsp; If you have problems or questions about fine tuning VREF let us know.&nbsp; The basics are use your fingers and your ears and find that spot where the motor turns smoothly and sounds the best.&nbsp; Don&#039;t get hung up on measuring the voltage as that only gets you close anyways.&nbsp; You want to find that spot where the motors produces the most torque and then back it off just a hair.&nbsp; You are just trying to eliminate the pulse which you will feel with the shaft between your thumb and finger as it turns.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (wardjr)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Don&#039;t worry too much about your z rod.&nbsp; If you can&#039;t see any wobble as it rotates then it&#039;s fine.&nbsp; You can add a well nut to eliminate backlash if you want.<span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?SrQCp7H.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?SrQCp7H.jpg" /></span></p></blockquote></div><p>Ahhh ok I shall put that on the back burners and address that a bit later. I spent the last hour reading a few articles on retraction and will do the retraction cube test now and see how it goes! Then move on to looking up VREFs</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (takadakeyo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2016 05:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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