As to why I'm not contributing here but help people elsewhere, well because of shit like above.

I just finished treading these posts, and I really can't believe there are people that think like this.

This forum has bee around for a long time, way before Solidoodle ran into it current financial problems, which led to their apparent demise.  I found my way here, like most everyone else when I had a problem.  Also like most early adopters, I was aware that this industry is still in the garage/hobby stage, and if I wanted quick answers a forum is a better source than actual support from the company.  And this forum didn't disappoint.

Because I was welcomed here, I stayed here, and have been a (sometimes) contributor.  This is the case with most of us here. 

What you, vivi, fail to understand, is that this forum is by the users, for the users.  Everybody contributes in their own way, but we don't look at it as a business.  If someone who makes a living from their printer wants our help, we'll help, and we ask for nothing in return, but if you think that is wrong, well then...

...GET OFF THE FUCKING BUS.

WOW!
What we do know is their business practices suck.  No one here is arguing that fact.
We know they filed for bankruptcy but that only means financial restructuring by court order.  It doesn't mean they are out of business.

Do you know where (in what court) they filed for bankruptcy?  I looked around but couldn't find the case.

As to why I'm not contributing here but help people elsewhere, well because of shit like above.

Vivi,
you are obviously unaware of the hundreds of 3D printer manufactures as well as forums that have come and gone world wide the past 3-4 years.

No, you have the wrong assumptions.

Wow, what a source you have. But I agree with you, so whatever.

Mitch what do you have against China, seriously? you have too many posts about China being the problem. It's not, old Solidoodles have a proud "Made in USA" on their back, they are still poorly assembled.

WOW!
So to clarify, you blame us (moderators) for not creating a sticky in regards to Solidoodles Financial Situation?

Yes. Of course.

No, just sticky the thread where Solinonymous posted, as well as several other disappointed customers. You found it worth to sticky the "Solidoodle Review Compilation" thread which hasn't been posted to since 2013 but not that?

No. But if I were you I would make the sticky accessible as an "announcement" clickable anywhere in the forum.

But I'll be less concise and say this:
Maybe you missed this part or something, but I've said in this thread that I help people with their 3d printing questions elsewhere. I don't find 3d printers difficult to use and mainting personally, but my post was requested by the OP, this isn't about me. And 3d printing isn't a hobby to me. My main source of income is another job, but I offer 3d printing for profit.

IronMan wrote:

People tend to do their homework before buying a product, and in the case of a Solidoodle, folks would invariably come to this site; and it is VERY CLEAR even to the unitiated that Solidoodle products have some issues.  Many are issues of normal calibrations, steps/mm, and other settings that need to be understood and tweaked by the user.  Other issues have been more major and require refitting and rebuilding.

If after you have read the feedback from this forum and decided to purchase a Solidoodle product, then you were well aware of the issues.

This is a forum, not a Q&A or a manual, which means there is a huge amount of information, some of it is contradicting opinions and some of it is useless posts. Nobody finds and scans a whole forum before buying a product, nor has time to. Even if anyone in their right mind did,  as I've already stated there's a lot of contradicting views and info like even in this thread and also as I mentioned some people actually encouraged to get this printer because "it is a learning experience" or similar.

What Ian and the other members have stated above is correct...at this point in time you are better off fixing it and having a printer that works (and will usually work very well) versus chasing a refund that you will probably never receive.

I have already commented on this. Saying it is impossible to receive a refund for a broken product is so not true. You are free to believe it, but it doesn't make it true and you're hurting others by convincing them it's futile.

As far as "understanding everything about your printer" being the nature of the tech at the moment, please enlighten the rest of us as to which printers prove this to be untrue...I have a friend with a $30,000 Stratasys that has been down for repairs for the last 3 weeks.  Someday the tech will get there...

Do not attempt to sound like you're speaking on behalf of everyone else. I don't care if your friend has a $30,000 printer which needs repair, that doesn't prove anything I said wrong, because I never said there are printers which are maintenance free or never get damaged, no product in the world is 100% reliable, but there's a difference between a flat tire and trying to drive a turd.

Me wrote:

Quickly dying underpowered PSUs, poor/weak mechanical parts, undersized heating elements,  badly calibrated machines fresh from the factory... all these are not the nature of 3d printers, these are the nature of shitty brands which should be avoided.

I don't have to repeat myself.

I'll be very clear and concise since I don't have any more time to waste with your posts...Find another hobby!

What we do know is their business practices suck.  No one here is arguing that fact.
We know they filed for bankruptcy but that only means financial restructuring by court order.  It doesn't mean they are out of business.

What your telling us is some day when you have a business that is struggling, you'd like some forum to highlight your failures and discourage people from doing business with you?  Maybe you'd also like that forum to choose not to help users that got stuck with a non supported product also.

What this community is:  A great group of smart individuals with a common interest trying to help each other out.  Regardless of the cause of the problem or issue a user is having, we help each other out.

Maybe it's time you looked in the mirror and ask what you can do to help make the community better.  I assure you, blaming us for your anger towards Solidoodle is NOT the right approach.

I have watched many youtube videos to support what I have said, one just last night about the failing ibox Nano SLA which was 16mins long a very un-biased review stating how he loved their proof of consept and hoped they could improve its areas falling short on delivery like very poor repeatability in finished prints (like %10 good quality results of same model, and tiny build surface besides the usual issue with SLA printers run at ultra fine detail layers lloonnggggg build times like a tiny model that would take 15mins on an SD2 runs 4.5 hours on the ibox Nano then it may be useless when finished wasting time and material which is more costly than ABS filament btw.

this forum has had many topics on Solidoodles problems the last year and we dont need any more as this is not Solidoodles complaints dept. maybe try their partners in China if NY is not answering ;^)

Mitch

People tend to do their homework before buying a product, and in the case of a Solidoodle, folks would invariably come to this site; and it is VERY CLEAR even to the unitiated that Solidoodle products have some issues.  Many are issues of normal calibrations, steps/mm, and other settings that need to be understood and tweaked by the user.  Other issues have been more major and require refitting and rebuilding.

If after you have read the feedback from this forum and decided to purchase a Solidoodle product, then you were well aware of the issues.

This is a forum, not a Q&A or a manual, which means there is a huge amount of information, some of it is contradicting opinions and some of it is useless posts. Nobody finds and scans a whole forum before buying a product, nor has time to. Even if anyone in their right mind did,  as I've already stated there's a lot of contradicting views and info like even in this thread and also as I mentioned some people actually encouraged to get this printer because "it is a learning experience" or similar.

I have already commented on this. Saying it is impossible to receive a refund for a broken product is so not true. You are free to believe it, but it doesn't make it true and you're hurting others by convincing them it's futile.

Do not attempt to sound like you're speaking on behalf of everyone else. I don't care if your friend has a $30,000 printer which needs repair, that doesn't prove anything I said wrong, because I never said there are printers which are maintenance free or never get damaged, no product in the world is 100% reliable, but there's a difference between a flat tire and trying to drive a turd.

I don't have to repeat myself.

If after you have read the feedback from this forum and decided to purchase a Solidoodle product, then you were well aware of the issues.  What Ian and the other members have stated above is correct...at this point in time you are better off fixing it and having a printer that works (and will usually work very well) versus chasing a refund that you will probably never receive.

As far as "understanding everything about your printer" being the nature of the tech at the moment, please enlighten the rest of us as to which printers prove this to be untrue...I have a friend with a $30,000 Stratasys that has been down for repairs for the last 3 weeks.  Someday the tech will get there...