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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just to chime in since I just got this working after a few evenings of tinkering. I got a good deal on a cheap china clone of smoothieboard (namely this: <a href="http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3Dpriter-control-board-MKS-SBase-V1-0-32-s-Motherboard-compatible-Smoothieware-open-source-firmware-support/32384368763.html">http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3Dpriter … 68763.html</a> ). Back when I ordered it, it was running around $80,- but I found it used for $35,- on ebay.</p><p>I was running the original SD4 printrboard so to me the upside was DRV8825 drivers and a 2nd hotend mosfet (in addition to fan mosfet) for possible future upgrades. And the fact that it&#039;s ARM32 wasn&#039;t hurting.</p><p>The downside was the fact the my board was version 1.0 and required a little fix to 5V supply and the fact that smoothie developers aren&#039;t exactly happy about the clone, as I&#039;ve later found out.</p><p>But as I said, the board had been on the bottom of my drawer for half a year maybe before now putting it on, and first impressions are good. Lots of options to do stuff in addition to extended functionality. I like.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>bnj wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And I love messing with new stuff mainly !! :-D</p></blockquote></div><p>Hear hear! <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Good luck!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well said grob,</p><p>Very informative and well detailed post right there, I&#039;m standing up, and applause silently !!</p><p>I personnaly went for the smoothie little sister, the azteeg x5 mini, which is just what I need for the SD3. It gives no possibilities to upgrade the machine though, no 2nd extruder possible.</p><p>If you ask me why I did that, well... It&#039;s a hard question to answer... Maybe I just wanted to upgrade my sanguino, and the vikki 2 screen is a real plus.. And I love messing with new stuff mainly !! :-D</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2015 13:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Which board should I use?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have used both the RUMBA and (currently) the Smoothie.</p><p>Smoothie Pros:<br />* Firmware current control of steppers (this actually makes them more difficult to tune by ear; I like using the trimpot!)<br />* Ethernet interface (just a serial-over-ip interface; the web thing is no replacement for octoprint)<br />* Configuration is flexible and clear, this and firmware itself (!!) can be updated on the fly via USB/SD card. No arduino IDE / flashing procedure (this is tops)<br />* Nearly every control pin is broken out to a header<br />* SD card is provided/integrated/necessary, works straight out of the box (supposedly the most reliable way to print from this board)<br />* Extra grunt reduces chances of non-time-critical things like LCD getting in the way of stepper/PID control (these issues pop up every now and then on 8-bit boards).</p><p>Rumba Pros:<br />* More logical board layout (slightly, definitely a subjective opinion!)<br />* Removable pseudo-standard driver modules<br />* Cheaper (just)<br />* Marlin firmware is more 3d-printer-specific, and development is livelier, so new/fun features likely to be supported earlier</p><p>In summary:</p><p>I believe the advantages of the smoothie&#039;s performance (32-bit 96MHz ARM) currently do not translate into real value gain for a 3d printer - even though the extra grunt could in theory support better temperature, motion and extrusion control than an 8-bit uC could (16MHz 8-bit AVR), which was my main hope in trying it out, in practice the firmware basically implements the core functions similarly to Marlin (GRBL-based motion control, vanilla PID for temperature control, no (working) extrusion advance). The only present advantage is the ability to run higher combined steprates (e.g. for running a couple of 256x ustep external drivers, for example) - which is usually a little outside typical needs.</p><p>Get whichever you can afford and like the look of, as either will likely serve you well. But hoping that the smoothie firmware starts taking advantage of the hardware is a gamble that has kept a fair few people waiting for a couple of years already!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2015 01:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pirvan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just gave the Smoothie a look, and while they certainly packed a lot of features into one board, I can&#039;t see paying for something I probably won&#039;t use 1/2 the functionality of.</p><p>Then there&#039;s the integrated stepper drivers.&nbsp; Not a big fan of that.&nbsp; These are 4982 steppers, and they charge basically $20 a pop.&nbsp; That&#039;s pretty steep.</p><p>I don&#039;t know.&nbsp; You can do better for that money I think.</p></blockquote></div><p>I agree.&nbsp; Disappointed that there isn&#039;t a Smoothie option to use standard stepper modules.&nbsp; However, there is are 4 pin connectors on the board with the controls for each driver enabling reasonably easy use of external drivers.&nbsp; X&amp;Y are really the only channels I want/need to upgrade so I am thinking once I start pushing the speed of my printer, I will replace those with external drivers on a separate breakout board.&nbsp; It is a little more expensive, but I expect to spend a LOT of time on this project so I&#039;m not going to let $50 get in the way of it being what I want.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I did some research on the Rumba board and I really liked it, so I went ahead and ordered one from MakerFarm along with some DRV8825 stepper drivers and a 5&quot; LCD display.</p><p>Thanks guys!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>MakerFarm</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone in the US sell Rumba boards?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 15:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pirvan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just gave the Smoothie a look, and while they certainly packed a lot of features into one board, I can&#039;t see paying for something I probably won&#039;t use 1/2 the functionality of.</p><p>Then there&#039;s the integrated stepper drivers.&nbsp; Not a big fan of that.&nbsp; These are 4982 steppers, and they charge basically $20 a pop.&nbsp; That&#039;s pretty steep.</p><p>I don&#039;t know.&nbsp; You can do better for that money I think.</p></blockquote></div><p>I completely agree, as far as usable features I still like the Rumba the best.&nbsp; I have 3 Rumba&#039;s and have never had a problem with any of them.&nbsp; I know some users have had issues with the 16U2 chip (USB).&nbsp; I have even had a few of those users ship their boards to me.&nbsp; Thus far I have been able to recover all but one.&nbsp; That particular board belonged to AZERATE and the first time I fixed it and sent it back working.&nbsp; Within a few days it failed again and the second time around I wasn&#039;t so lucky.&nbsp; I tend to lean towards operator error more so than the chip being faulty.&nbsp; <br />The point is for exactly all the reasons pirvan stated you can get many more useable features and a board with replaceable drivers (a huge plus) for the same or less money.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 15:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just gave the Smoothie a look, and while they certainly packed a lot of features into one board, I can&#039;t see paying for something I probably won&#039;t use 1/2 the functionality of.</p><p>Then there&#039;s the integrated stepper drivers.&nbsp; Not a big fan of that.&nbsp; These are 4982 steppers, and they charge basically $20 a pop.&nbsp; That&#039;s pretty steep.</p><p>I don&#039;t know.&nbsp; You can do better for that money I think.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s where I ordered my Smoothie from, took a few days for it to actually ship.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>So the only supplier for Smoothieboards in North America is this site called uberclock.com - has anyone else ordered anything from them?</p><p><a href="http://shop.uberclock.com/collections/smoothie">http://shop.uberclock.com/collections/smoothie</a></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>RUMBA = 8-bit atmel AVR / arduino, but integrated on the board. It is a great board, works well, has removable drivers, and plenty of I/O to play with.</p><p>This craftware thing sounds like it&#039;s worth a look... Is the config easy enough? Would love to see whether it really is generating G3/4 commands in the output... &quot;Vector&quot; sounds a bit vague and internal, not sure it means it&#039;s outputting arcs. If the input is STL, then the curves are already segmented: is it actually detecting the curves based on the segments? That would be quite an achievement!</p><p>The main reason something like a smoothieboard will do arcs well is both the gruntier ARM processor to calculate the movements, and that it&#039;s aimed at CNC routing applications too, which usually do use arcs, so the user base will be regularly using and testing G3/G4 movements. For Marlin, which is basically only aimed at 3D printing and g-code from STL slicers, the G3/G4 commands might work but won&#039;t get nearly the same amount of testing as nobody will be actively using them!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2015 03:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#039;t tried the latest version of Craftware yet, but will this weekend.&nbsp; </p><p>According to the Craftware change-log, the software is now vector driven by default, and I don&#039;t think they would have made that change if the software wouldn&#039;t have worked on the majority of printers on the market.</p><p>I too have a RAMPS, and I&#039;m pretty sure it will work just fine.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Although not fancy, I have had great success with the RAMPS 1.4...it has replaceable drivers, can support up to 2 extruders (if you give up a PWM controlled fan), and there is a ton of well documented support on it.</p><p>Downside is it won&#039;t support 24V so heating a larger than 8 x 8 heat bed directly requires an SSR...and it certainly won&#039;t support the G2/G3 arcs as mentioned above.</p><p>I hear the RUMBA is a great board as well, if you can get your hands on one...not sure if it incorporates an ARM processor.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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