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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Looking for an inexpensive household model. Used Airwolf XL at work]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have the Folgertech 2020 Prusa i3 kit and I do like it - with a few minor upgrades, LOL. Was an easy kit to build, and it went together pretty well. Roughly 2 days to build and get running (a weekend). And yes, they do include everything you need except the glass plate. </p><p>another member here is building the Folgertech Kossel kit - you can find his thread on it here:<br /> <a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/11325/folger-tech-kossel-unboxing-and-first-impressions-pic-heavy/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/11325/fo … pic-heavy/</a></p><p>he has run into a couple of minor problems with it, so worth the time to read thru to get an idea of what you might run into. </p><p>For glass to use on the heated bed - I use cheap 12&quot; x 12&quot; mirror tiles purchased at the local home improvement store - 6 tiles to a box for around $10-15... a cheap glass cutter (around $2) will cut them to whatever size you need. Have been using the same 2 pieces for several months with no problems. <br />since the kossel uses a round bed, the tiles can be cut to an octagon shape - start with a square and then cut the corners off at 45 degree angles. </p><p>Aqua Net Super Extra Hold hairspray (purple can) or Elmer&#039;s Washable School Glue Stick (glue is purple, dries clear) is a must have if you plan on printing with ABS. PLA doesn&#039;t require anything extra for it to stick to a heated bed, but it does benefit from a light misting of the hairspray...</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2015 12:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Looking for an inexpensive household model. Used Airwolf XL at work]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Nice they also have an aluminum bracket kit to replace some of the 3d parts but a couple weeks out on availability. Good luck<br />IIRC the kossel uses an ED3 clone hot end so should be easy to upgrade to real ed3 at some point. <br />Tin </p><p>PM sent</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 22:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Looking for an inexpensive household model. Used Airwolf XL at work]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I ended up ordering the Kossel! Couldn&#039;t resist the autoleveling. And damn it looks cool.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 22:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Looking for an inexpensive household model. Used Airwolf XL at work]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Yes everything you need to build the kit except the glass a couple bucks to buy and you will need a can of aquanet hairs spray IIRC a buck or so from Walmart. and of course you need a roll or two of material but $15 -$50 a roll depending on where you buy. but you should be able to start printing for less than $ 300. </p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>What will the downsides of a cheap aduino/power supply be?</p></blockquote></div><p>A chance they will die an early death. Although one review I read here&nbsp; is the arduino is a name brand. <br />IMHO worth the risk. considering a kossel kit was twice the money a year ago when I was shopping for a first printer. <br />So you build it and use it and if a component fails you replace with a better one. <br />I have considered the Kossel kit myself . <br />fyI My first printer is a used SD4.<br />Tin<br />Funny the maker farm kit does not even include a power supply.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 21:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Solid answer man. Thanks. </p><p>Its funny you suggest the Prusa. I&#039;ve been continuing my google searching after I posted this and I found this page: <a href="http://www.makerfarm.com/index.php/prusa-8-i3v-kit-v-slot-extrusion.html">http://www.makerfarm.com/index.php/prus … usion.html</a>. </p><p>However, this Folgertech price is amazing! This kit does include an extruder/hotend right? It says other than the glass plate it has everything that is needed so I assume it does. </p><p>The kossel looks really cool! Perhaps I can build some of the parts for it with the Prusa <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>What will the downsides of a cheap aduino/power supply be? I very much like the idea that I can upgrade or mod these and the hotends. </p><p>I think you&#039;ve sold me!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 21:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Looking for an inexpensive household model. Used Airwolf XL at work]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>First of all welcome !! yes lots of experience here. </p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>At work I recently assembled an Airwolf 3d XL</p></blockquote></div><p>So a kit would be OK ? <br />And You want open source .<br />Starving student = low budget! <br />Take a look here. <br /><a href="http://folgertech.com/products/folger-tech-reprap-2020-prusa-i3-full-aluminum-3d-printer-kit">http://folgertech.com/products/folger-t … rinter-kit</a><br />The prusaI3 is the #2 most popular printer in north America (3D hubs survey) <br />The price of this kit is very attractive $269&nbsp; <br />for a few dollars more you can add a lcd/sd feature to run on its own. <br />this is an aluminum frame kit. At least one member here has built one. <br />Prusa I3 is open source you are encouraged to print spares of the printed parts. <br />8x8 (200 x 200 )&nbsp; heated bed You likely want an enclosier for ABS<br />7 inch z<br />this company also sells a nice kossel kit for about $350. As well. <br />Folger tech uses the arduino mega and ramps controllers so very basic and you have a choice of replaceable drives. And at these prices you can always upgrade to a real arduino instead of the clone, better power supply , better extruder/hot end etc as time and budget permit. </p> <br /><p>A link to the build and review of the above kit. <br /><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/11293/who-else-is-getting-one-of-the-folger-tech-2020-i3-prusas/page/2/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/11293/wh … as/page/2/</a><br />All in all the Prusa seems like a good starter machine for someone willing and able to kit build. and a hard price to beat. </p><p>Print bot simple is another solid choice. <br />Tin</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 20:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey all. Seems like a good community here and I&#039;ve been reading a bunch of posts. I thought I would ask experienced people before I blindly purchase a 3d printer I won&#039;t be happy with. Starving student... I shouldn&#039;t be buying one anyway XD </p><p>At work I recently assembled an Airwolf 3d XL - damn that was a lot of parts. But now I&#039;m hooked! I want an affordable model to use at home. The airwolves at work are great but damn expensive!</p><p>I have been searching around and the XYZprinting DaVinci looks good but then I read about the filament cartridges. I don&#039;t want to be fighting the manufacturer to use it how I want. Something that is open source like airwolf would be awesome. </p><p>I have no problem fiddling and adjusting and having to workaround certain limitations. Bed size is not super important to me. 150mm+ would be fine. If the control board was sorta &quot;open&quot; like on the airwolf so I could easily mod it in the future that would be awesome. </p><p>Thanks!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 20:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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