ArcticWolf_11 wrote:

like maybe 8x8x8, atm i'm thinking of buying the Robo 3D R1

Ok, but have you considered the environment it will be in?

being an "open" printer, you will more than likely have problems trying to print with ABS.
and trying to enclose a moving (Y axis) bed printer makes for a much larger footprint.

The SD4 is fully enclosed already, in roughly a 15" square footprint.
Granted, the Robo has a slightly larger build area than the SD4, but the open case makes me not so enthusiastic about it at the higher price point...

here is a quote from Nerdgasm (a 3D printing youtube personality) about the Robo 3D R1:

Out of the box the printer never really performed well for me but after I tracked down the problems, made some tweaks and printed some upgrades I'm happy to report it works like a charm and is not giving me anymore problems

(from: http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140104- … rints.html with a video link as well)

sounds kinda like what most of us have done with our SD printers... track down problems, make tweaks, and print out upgrades...

I honestly do not think ANY 3D printer is at the "plug & play" point yet - there are always tweaks, calibrations, and sometimes upgrades needed to make them reliable.

So yeah, ask yourself the questions in manx's book - what do you really want to do with it?

Yeah, the reason why I was thinking of getting the Robo is because barnacules had one and for the upgrades like the Z rod stabilizers, the new R1 has them secured at the top so I don't need that upgrade. Also I live in Arizona and moisture wont be a problem (Arizona is very hot and dry if you didn't know lol) so an open printer isn't a problem for me. Printing speed doesn't matter either and I am probably going to get an E3D V6 hotend for it. The reason why I posted this thread was to see if there were other printers in my price point that would be good so I would have some options. Carl the reason why I want a different printer than the Da Vinci is because of the problems I have been having with it and trying to fix it, I'm sure I can get it to print amazingly but atm I am just frustrated with it. The middle of the bed is always higher than the sides of it and the new glass didn't help, all the sides are even but the middle is never the same. I suspect that I may need to replace all the rods from it and I fear that is that isn't the problem I just wasted all that money trying to fix it. So now I am selling it on ebay to make some money to buy the Robo. What I want to do with the printer is just to make some great prints and to sell them at school for some extra money (I'v made over $50 in 1 week from printing with the Da Vinci using the corners of its bed and not in the middle to print 3D pokemon for people, but now I can't make anything bigger due to the middle)

like maybe 8x8x8, atm i'm thinking of buying the Robo 3D R1

Ok, but have you considered the environment it will be in?

being an "open" printer, you will more than likely have problems trying to print with ABS.
and trying to enclose a moving (Y axis) bed printer makes for a much larger footprint.

The SD4 is fully enclosed already, in roughly a 15" square footprint.
Granted, the Robo has a slightly larger build area than the SD4, but the open case makes me not so enthusiastic about it at the higher price point...

here is a quote from Nerdgasm (a 3D printing youtube personality) about the Robo 3D R1:

(from: http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140104- … rints.html with a video link as well)

sounds kinda like what most of us have done with our SD printers... track down problems, make tweaks, and print out upgrades...

I honestly do not think ANY 3D printer is at the "plug & play" point yet - there are always tweaks, calibrations, and sometimes upgrades needed to make them reliable.

So yeah, ask yourself the questions in manx's book - what do you really want to do with it?

like maybe 8x8x8, atm i'm thinking of buying the Robo 3D R1

It looks high-end atmosphere.
www.reprapmall.com

yeah I have but I think the robo is better than it if im not mistaken

You need to look passed the shell. Look at the modfing community or lack of. If there is one, chances are the machine is not so good stock or is just too new.  Look at the bearings, look at the rods, look at the logic and firmeare, look at the frame under the shell. How ridgid is it. I'm not sure why you are moving away ftom the Da Vinci. Now that I got rid of the stock board and installed a RAMPS 1.4 with Marlin firmware the machine is so quite I have to check to ser if it is running from ten feet away. The prints are coming out beautiful. I am still going to get an E3D light simply to remove the final XYZ demon from the machine. But for the price of 400 bucks and about 200 in mods for a total of 600 it has become on of the best machines I have had and is printing as good or better than a 3000 dollar makerbot and is not limited to PLA like that makerbot is.