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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Inexpensive computer for Solidworks?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>you think running windows 7 is old im gonna be running windows xp on mine just got a new hard drive for it to free up a bunch of space need more ram next</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Inexpensive computer for Solidworks?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Late update.</p><p>As an experiment I tried installing it on my son&#039;s Windows 8 laptop and it installed just fine.&nbsp; This is a brand new computer and it cost under $300, so it is the ultimate bottom of the barrel laptop.</p><p>Solidworks Support worked with me to get Solidworks installed on the old HP Laptop running Windows XP Media Center (special version of XP Pro).&nbsp; The support guy was obviously in India and it was morning there while it was nighttime here.&nbsp; He setup an online meeting and I gave him remote control of the laptop.&nbsp; He was able, after about an hour of continuous time, to determine that the Microsoft .NET Framework wasn&#039;t installing properly and that it was not a Solidworks issue.</p><p>He later emailed a set of procedures to manually uninstall all older .NET frameworks, download and run a .NET cleanup utility, uninstall Visual C++ redistibutable components, uninstall Visual Studio 2005 Tools for Application, reinstall C++ 2005 and 2008, and finally reinstall Visual Studio 2005 Tools for Application.&nbsp; After doing all of this, Solidworks Student edition installed properly.</p><p>I was able to buy Solidworks Student edition 2012-2013 for only $95 delivered from Studica.com, and it is good for one year.&nbsp; I&#039;ve taken a semester course in Solidworks and my son has learned how to use Solidworks also.&nbsp; This one year of Solidworks is kind of an experiment and we&#039;ll see if it is worth the annual cost.&nbsp; If not, I might try the home versions of Alibre or Rhino next year.&nbsp; Or maybe even Cubify Invent <a href="http://cubify.com/products/cubify_invent/index.aspx">http://cubify.com/products/cubify_invent/index.aspx</a> by 3DSystems, which is a $49 lower-end version of Alibre.&nbsp; 3D Systems bought Alibre back in July 2011.</p><p>Thanks for all of the ideas and help.</p><p>Titanium</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Inexpensive computer for Solidworks?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Solidworks is heavier than inventor. It runs slowly on my laptop, while inventor is more rarely laggy.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Inexpensive computer for Solidworks?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Your sons should be able to download the (free) student edition of Creo 2.0 by PTC (formerly known as Pro/Engineer or Pro/E for short). Do a google search for &quot;PTC Academic Program&quot; to get the links.</p><p>I started with Pro/E about 12 years ago and moved on to Solidworks in 2008 (when I went to work for a company that used SW). The user interface of Creo has come a long way since the Pro/E days. That said, there&#039;s still a rather steep learning curve associated with Creo. From my experience, if you can learn Creo, you can pick up Solidworks pretty easily when the time calls for it. </p><p>Regarding a PC powerful enough to run these programs, the software manufacturers always release lists of &quot;approved&quot; hardware for their tools. Unfortunately the graphics cards on the approved list sometimes cost as much as an inexpensive PC. If you&#039;re building a system, the one component that makes or breaks 3D CAD is generally the graphics card. I&#039;ve found some decent cards through newegg.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 20:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Inexpensive computer for Solidworks?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Check out Hexagon 2.5 on Daz3d.com.&nbsp; It&#039;s free (last time I checked) and it does some pretty good modelling.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There are plenty of programs to use to create 3d models, unless you really need the solidworks features its a waste.&nbsp; If on a budget (like broke) use Blender, it runs only just about every OS including Linux.&nbsp; Rhino 3d is good if you have some money and run any version of windows.&nbsp; There are also some other free ones that do some cool things, so look around.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Inexpensive computer for Solidworks?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have SW2012 running on windows 8, I don&#039;t even think I had to do anything with the compatibility when I installed it.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 06:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Inexpensive computer for Solidworks?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I replaced the optical drive with a SSD for Windows 7 pro...&nbsp; I used the external super drive enclosure for when I need to use DVDs. I think I used it once in the year and a half since I took it out. I have some friends who were using SW with Windows 7 home premium and it seemed to work ok for them. The extra SSD is really nice for things like working in SW. I can get from working on something in ACS on my Mac side to having a large assembly open in SW on Windows in under a minute. My Vaio, which I liked a good bit, took a full couple of minutes to load SW on its own. </p><p>If you will pretty much only use the partition for SW, I might consider using an old copy of XP since it is dirt cheap. You could use VMware which would be quicker for switching over without getting a new drive, but I think it might be like $60. An old copy of XP and a small partition for Bootcamp should be&nbsp; practically free.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 12:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>lawsy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Massive pain in the bum but a second partition with W7 for Solidworks?</p></blockquote></div><p>Do you mean a W7 partition for a Windows 8 computer or a Mac? </p><p>Another complication is that Solidworks says Windows 7 Pro or Ultimate (or Vista Ultimate, Vista Business, or XP Pro) is officially supported.&nbsp; I&#039;ve seen users on the internet say that Windows 7 Home Premium is working with Solidworks for them, but that combo is not supported by Solidworks.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>jooshs wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Are you still a student in engineering?&nbsp; I would say, if you have the means, that it is more than worth it to have a drive devoted to windows on your mac if you plan on using that most of the time.&nbsp; I just ran into so many times where having windows was useful with some of the programs used.&nbsp; Also, it was a lot more convenient to keep most of my engineering programs on the same drive since it was easier to hop around from one to another.&nbsp; At times, I would have Solidworks, Matlab, Arduino, 3ds max, all of the printing programs open and more since I needed to quickly see how changing a model would change the dynamics of a part, see how I would change the controls, see how long it would take to print, and so on...&nbsp; Just my 2 cents, but the extra drive was more than worth it.&nbsp; I replaced my optical drive with a small 80 GB SSD and installed BootCamp with a cheap version of windows 7 and it was the best move I made.&nbsp; Hope this helps.</p></blockquote></div><p>My engineering days are long past me as I&#039;m retired, but my high school age boys are interested in 3D printing and designing items with Solidworks.&nbsp; If I end up having to buy a separate copy of Windows 7, I&#039;ll definitely be looking to put it on a partition on a Mac.&nbsp; Did you end up with Windows 7 Home Premium or Windows 7 Pro?</p><p>I&#039;m confused - you got rid of your optical drive?&nbsp; How did you deal with cd&#039;s or dvd&#039;s?</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Tomek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Why did the install fail..?</p><p>Unless they have a spec *requirement*, then the install should not fail. It might merely be slow...</p></blockquote></div><p>The spec requirement is for XP Pro, Vista Ultimate or Business, or Windows 7 Pro or Ultimate.&nbsp; I have some HP abortion called Windows XP Media Center.&nbsp; I <em>think</em> it is based on XP Pro, but I&#039;m not completely certain.</p><p>Another spec requirement is a &quot;tested OpenGL workstation graphics card and driver combination&quot;.&nbsp; I KNOW I don&#039;t have that as all this laptop has is a lowly ATI Mobility Radeon Xpress 200 Series card.&nbsp; The thing is that I installed a SDK version of Solidworks 2011 earlier this year and it worked.&nbsp; Not screaming fast or anything, but it worked.</p><p>Why did the install fail?&nbsp; I&#039;m not sure as there were multiple errors during the install.</p><p>At about 14% complete, I got an error saying: The executable file &quot;E:\PreReqs\dotnetfx3.5.exe&#039;&quot; /q /norestart did not install successfully. This was during the Microsoft .Net Framework 3.5 installation.</p><p>At 15% complete, I got an&nbsp; error saying: Internal Error: The Windows Installer for this product component did not run as expected:&nbsp; CA_BlockVSTAonFramework.3643236F_FC70_11D3_A536_0090278A1BB8.&nbsp; This was during the Visual Studio Tools installation, whatever that is.</p><p>At 22% complete, I got an error saying:&nbsp; Error 1304.&nbsp; Error writing to file DwgDocumentMgrNET.dll.&nbsp; Verify that you have access to that directory.</p><p>Still at 22% complete, I got another error saying: Internal Error.&nbsp; The Windows Installer for this product component did not run as expected:&nbsp; InstallExecute</p><p>I&#039;m almost wishing I had gone with Alibris or Cubify&nbsp; Invent at this point...</p><p>Titanium</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 07:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Inexpensive computer for Solidworks?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Why did the install fail..?</p><br /><p>Unless they have a spec *requirement*, then the install should not fail. It might merely be slow...</p><p>I run autodesk inventor (solidworks competitor) on my 4 year old ultraportable, which is probably on part in specs with the laptop.&nbsp; Interesting enough I rarely have problems if I&#039;m not dealing with an assembly (i.e, if I&#039;m just doing a single part.) And if I do have problems, it&#039;s just a long hangup while the script is run.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Tomek)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>titanium wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have an ancient HP Inspiron laptop and an ancient Dell laptop, both of which were pretty low end when bought in 2006.&nbsp; The funny thing is that both ran the free classroom version of Solidworks 2011 last year.&nbsp; Not very fast, but adequate for the Solidworks class I was in.&nbsp; Of course this free classroom version (completely legit, by the way) timed out in late November.</p><p>Fast forward to now when I just received the 2012 Student Solidworks package.&nbsp; Solidworks failed on the install. The Student Solidworks has all kind of goodies that the free classroom version didn&#039;t have, like the Toolbox, etc.</p><p>The problem is that all the computers out there are running Windows 8 (may a pox infect Microsoft), and Solidworks won&#039;t be compatible with Windows 8 until version 2013.&nbsp; Solidworks 2012 is compatible with Windows XP Pro, Vista, and 7.</p><p>I&#039;m tempted to run Solidworks under Mac OSX, but I&#039;m finding that Windows 7 is running at least $140 from reputable vendors.</p><p>Ideas? Options?</p><p>Titanium</p></blockquote></div><p>Are you still a student in engineering?&nbsp; I would say, if you have the means, that it is more than worth it to have a drive devoted to windows on your mac if you plan on using that most of the time.&nbsp; I just ran into so many times where having windows was useful with some of the programs used.&nbsp; Also, it was a lot more convenient to keep most of my engineering programs on the same drive since it was easier to hop around from one to another.&nbsp; At times, I would have Solidworks, Matlab, Arduino, 3ds max, all of the printing programs open and more since I needed to quickly see how changing a model would change the dynamics of a part, see how I would change the controls, see how long it would take to print, and so on...&nbsp; Just my 2 cents, but the extra drive was more than worth it.&nbsp; I replaced my optical drive with a small 80 GB SSD and installed BootCamp with a cheap version of windows 7 and it was the best move I made.&nbsp; Hope this helps.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 15:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Inexpensive computer for Solidworks?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/9728/#p9728</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I bought a used version of Windows7 on EBAY for $60 6 months ago, might be cheaper now that windows 8 is out.&nbsp; If there is any problem, Ebay will fix it.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 11:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Inexpensive computer for Solidworks?]]></title>
			<link>https://www.soliforum.com/post/9724/#p9724</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Massive pain in the bum but a second partition with W7 for Solidworks?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (lawsy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 09:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Inexpensive computer for Solidworks?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have an ancient HP Inspiron laptop and an ancient Dell laptop, both of which were pretty low end when bought in 2006.&nbsp; The funny thing is that both ran the free classroom version of Solidworks 2011 last year.&nbsp; Not very fast, but adequate for the Solidworks class I was in.&nbsp; Of course this free classroom version (completely legit, by the way) timed out in late November.</p><p>Fast forward to now when I just received the 2012 Student Solidworks package.&nbsp; Solidworks failed on the install. The Student Solidworks has all kind of goodies that the free classroom version didn&#039;t have, like the Toolbox, etc.</p><p>The problem is that all the computers out there are running Windows 8 (may a pox infect Microsoft), and Solidworks won&#039;t be compatible with Windows 8 until version 2013.&nbsp; Solidworks 2012 is compatible with Windows XP Pro, Vista, and 7.</p><p>I&#039;m tempted to run Solidworks under Mac OSX, but I&#039;m finding that Windows 7 is running at least $140 from reputable vendors.</p><p>Ideas? Options?</p><p>Titanium</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 06:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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