I also asked few other places abut what hairspray to use and thought I'd share the info here.

Someone said "Garnier Fructis Style extreme hold 5" works well.

Someone else recommended "Rave 4X Mega"

And
"Aquanet and liquid PVA glue active ingredient - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinyl_acetate
"
Looks like also something in wood glues and some glue sticks. Maybe my glue stick doesn't contain it which would explain why it didn't work at all.

There's a gap in the middle of the brim. I set 5mm for brim. And no, that's not skirt, skirt is default 1 loop...
Looks like this with every STL I try. Slic3r 1.1.7

I'll look into other hairspray brands I can find and look up their ingridients on the box.
And try the ABS slurry.

This one sticks the filament to the hot glass besides the parts that lift, so I guess its not completely useless and not doing nothing at all... or is it?

EDIT: Okay, this hairspray doesn't work for sticking glass to aluminum bed. Tried several coats and to 110C and back. Really poor adhesion that I could unstick with one finger.

I believe the main ingredient you want to see is "Acrylates Copolymer"...here is the list from my can of Aquanet:

Water (Aqua), Dimethyl Ether, SD Alcohol 40-B (Alcohol Denat.), VA/Crotonates/Vinyl Neodecanoate Copolymer, Acrylates Copolymer, Aminomethyl Propanol, Sodium Benzoate, Cyclohexylamine, Triethyl Citrate, Cyclopentasiloxane

I don't see it on your ingredients pic...BTW, who is spraying their hair with BUTANE, PROPANE and CITRONELLA?...Lot of mosquitoes in your area?

Also, try slurry. Never made it but it will definitely work from what I've read!!

try a brim

I will. But since you say you don't have a problem without it I fear that's not solving the real issue.

Warping the glass? O_o
Didn't even know that's possible. It's 3.6mm thick. Thanks, I'll try without them.
Do you mean the glass might be warping mid print? How? Because just printing 1 layer and checking the extruded width on each edge gives pretty consistent result.

Thanks. I guess that'll help.
Here's mine:
http://makeupandbeauty.com/nova-gold-su … ay-review/

I'm pretty sure I'm not overextruding. Looks like a bit underextruded since there's a tiny gap between the perimeters.

if the hairspray you're using won't adhere the glass to the aluminum without clips, you need to keep looking and find something with more holding power. i recall you said getting aquanet is difficult. i can take a picture of the ingredients on a bottle to help in your search if you want

edit: also dial in that extrusion multiplier!! over extrusion does not help with adhesion, at all. and don't worry about the +/- variation on your bed, mine ranges from 103.7C to 105C even with an autotune (waiting to upgrade to a 500w sillicone heatpad)

After about 20 layers, the lifting was already visible.

on front and at layer 54 I just stopped the print as I was just wasting filament.

Previous print was worse because it had holes in the surface area/ less contact surface. Apparently that makes warping worse.

Anyway, most of the warping was in front, but also a tiny bit of lifting in the back as well.

More photos: http://imgur.com/rXxTK89,l40rfAB,rDyPb3 … QRzBjNo#35

I guess a brim would help if it was like 3cm+ around the model, because that's how deep the lifting went.

TickTock wrote:

At 115C my ABS starts to shrink causing warping and lifting.

Hm, very interesting. Never heard about such close high temp being bad, only lower than 90 being bad.
Any article about that? I'm surprised I haven't read about such a thing yet.

This was a recent discovery on my part.  I had been printing at 115 successfully for weeks then suddenly everything went to pot.  I (eventually, after many frustrating experiments :-)) discovered the problem was the heatbed being too hot.  It had worked before because I keep the printer in the shed and it had been very cold until recently so the cold ambient was making it work.  I just did a google search and did find a "second opinion" here:

http://support.3dverkstan.se/article/23 … wallcavein

Actually, if you go up a level this appears to be a very well put together troubleshooting guide.  I think I'll bookmark it.

At 115C my ABS starts to shrink causing warping and lifting.

Hm, very interesting. Never heard about such close high temp being bad, only lower than 90 being bad.
Any article about that? I'm surprised I haven't read about such a thing yet.

It's hard to tell if bottom edges (layers?) are shrunk as the whole object is warped.

I've read in lots of places to use 110C for bed. Mainly so the edges of the bed will get hot enough for adhesion too.
But I'm sure I've tried from 90C up.
Like here http://support.solidoodle.com/hc/en-us/ … e-Settings

The print aove was done at 110C.

I can try one more time at 100...

Slic3r settings:

So I'm skeptical that this definitely a filament issue, because we'd probably have several threads already about this.
I went ahead and bought a different spool for comparison, but itll take few weeks to arrive.

Meanwhile, is there anything else that might be going on? Maybe something damaged in my heatpad?
Anything else?