Eder wrote:

@Carl_m1968: I will try to use the PEEK filament from Indmatec, they tell me it needs around 480c to print.
Sure, I will replace the stock with the Pico's thermistor, I am trying to figure out if the 500c version will fit the Da vinci's current input/output.

http://www.makeitfrom.com/material-prop … tone-PEEK/

The only issue you will have with the PICO is if surrounding parts of the carriage can with stand the IR energy being radiated from it at that temperature.

Electrically it is the same ceramic heater cartridge most hot ends use. You will need to get the 500c thermistor from 3B however as the one that you bought and I bought is not ready for 500c out of the box. Read the box and manual and you will notice a foot note that says it is 500c CAPABLE with optional thermistor. The PICO cannot do 500c straight out of the box without damaging the thermistor is comes with.

Yes, I have noticed the * mark when choosing the 500c thermistor, I've already asked them about this. I'll make sure they send the correct one.

And yes, the heat will be intense, maybe I will need to use ceramic cloth for this one, but fiberglass could do the work (and it is cheaper too)

carl_m1968 wrote:

Eder wrote:

What material are you using that needs 500c? Also for the record the stock b3 cannot do 500c. You have to buy a different high temp thermistor from them and install it before you mount the hot end. The stock thermistor will be damaged if you go over 350c.

@Luc, Do you think the Da vinci 1.0 using your version of Repetier 0.92 will work with the Pico 500c ?

@Carl_m1968: I will try to use the PEEK filament from Indmatec, they tell me it needs around 480c to print.
Sure, I will replace the stock with the Pico's thermistor, I am trying to figure out if the 500c version will fit the Da vinci's current input/output.

http://www.makeitfrom.com/material-prop … tone-PEEK/

The only issue you will have with the PICO is if surrounding parts of the carriage can with stand the IR energy being radiated from it at that temperature.

Electrically it is the same ceramic heater cartridge most hot ends use. You will need to get the 500c thermistor from 3B however as the one that you bought and I bought is not ready for 500c out of the box. Read the box and manual and you will notice a foot note that says it is 500c CAPABLE with optional thermistor. The PICO cannot do 500c straight out of the box without damaging the thermistor is comes with.

Eder wrote:

luc wrote:

Filament sensor support depend of which repetier fw you are using, if you use one from github.com/luc-github, 0.91/0.92, both support filament sensor, only Jam sensor is not implemented (wire is known but no time to work on code implementation), so if you do not connect sensor wires, I suggest you to set filament sensor to "off" in settings of printer menu

What material are you using that needs 500c? Also for the record the stock b3 cannot do 500c. You have to buy a different high temp thermistor from them and install it before you mount the hot end. The stock thermistor will be damaged if you go over 350c.

@Luc, Do you think the Da vinci 1.0 using your version of Repetier 0.92 will work with the Pico 500c ?

@Carl_m1968: I will try to use the PEEK filament from Indmatec, they tell me it needs around 480c to print.
Sure, I will replace the stock with the Pico's thermistor, I am trying to figure out if the 500c version will fit the Da vinci's current input/output.

http://www.makeitfrom.com/material-prop … tone-PEEK/

luc wrote:

nubbyless wrote:

hi I have a question on the wiring what happens with the wires for the optical sensor the ones that detect filament do I just disconnect it and leave do they need to tied together? I am on repetier firmware not stock firmware

thanks
fred

Filament sensor support depend of which repetier fw you are using, if you use one from github.com/luc-github, 0.91/0.92, both support filament sensor, only Jam sensor is not implemented (wire is known but no time to work on code implementation), so if you do not connect sensor wires, I suggest you to set filament sensor to "off" in settings of printer menu

What material are you using that needs 500c? Also for the record the stock b3 cannot do 500c. You have to buy a different high temp thermistor from them and install it before you mount the hot end. The stock thermistor will be damaged if you go over 350c.

@Luc, Do you think the Da vinci 1.0 using your version of Repetier 0.92 will work with the Pico 500c ?

If you plan to use 500 degres range yes you need to adjust the
UI_SET_MAX_EXTRUDER_TEMP and MAX_DEFECT_TEMPERATURE and the thermistor table accordingly
Be aware resistors values are not same as ramps so you may adjust the provided table

someone created a table calculator for davinci you may have a Look : http://voltivo.com/forum/davinci-firmwa … ruder#6823

You will have a way for sure to adjust the FW but will the carriage/belt support to be so close to so High temperature component ?

Indeed, a way to insulate heat from other components will be needed. I was thinking on using Fiberglass insulator around the hot-end, since it is already used on the Pico's leads.

PS: thanks for the calculator, it will be really useful.

someone created a table calculator for davinci you may have a Look : http://voltivo.com/forum/davinci-firmwa … ruder#6823

You will have a way for sure to adjust the FW but will the carriage/belt support to be so close to so High temperature component ?

I do not see any reason it would not
just suggest to set FEATURE_Z_PROBE and FEATURE_AUTOLEVEL to false in configuration.h to remove useless features in menu and GCODES as no more probe

Thanks for that, I've actually removed the Bed calibration plaques in a Da vinci 2.0 and don't need for Autolevel.

But what about the temperature? Will I need to modify the configuration.h in case of the 500c temperatures (warnings or fire hazard cautions)?

nubbyless wrote:

hi I have a question on the wiring what happens with the wires for the optical sensor the ones that detect filament do I just disconnect it and leave do they need to tied together? I am on repetier firmware not stock firmware

thanks
fred

Filament sensor support depend of which repetier fw you are using, if you use one from github.com/luc-github, 0.91/0.92, both support filament sensor, only Jam sensor is not implemented (wire is known but no time to work on code implementation), so if you do not connect sensor wires, I suggest you to set filament sensor to "off" in settings of printer menu

@Luc, Do you think the Da vinci 1.0 using your version of Repetier 0.92 will work with the Pico 500c ?

hi I have a question on the wiring what happens with the wires for the optical sensor the ones that detect filament do I just disconnect it and leave do they need to tied together? I am on repetier firmware not stock firmware

thanks
fred

Filament sensor support depend of which repetier fw you are using, if you use one from github.com/luc-github, 0.91/0.92, both support filament sensor, only Jam sensor is not implemented (wire is known but no time to work on code implementation), so if you do not connect sensor wires, I suggest you to set filament sensor to "off" in settings of printer menu

hi I have a question on the wiring what happens with the wires for the optical sensor the ones that detect filament do I just disconnect it and leave do they need to tied together? I am on repetier firmware not stock firmware

thanks
fred

Repetier firmware does not even see those wires as existing. Their functions are not used in other words, so just zip tie them out of they way in case you ever want to put the old parts back on. All Repetier firmware uses on the head is the thermistor, the heater, and the stepper.

thanks
fred