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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Z axis positioning fix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Necromant wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Thanks for the warning.<br />I&#039;ve seen these on the wiki, and was advised against them by a man with over 30 years expertise in mechanical engineering, since adding a second nut (From what I got there&#039;s already one under the piece of wood, correct if I&#039;m wrong. I&#039;ll be disassembling it to have a look tomorrow). So in this way they can easily jam the threaded rod after a while.&nbsp; <br />So I think of adding a custom-machined brass nut there with adjustment screws (Surely there&#039;s a nice translation of &#039;маточная гайка&#039; to english, but &#039;uterine nut&#039; that gogle translate suggests doesn&#039;t sound like something proper).<br />It will be a longer, but I hope the proper way, if I manage to find a 5/16 screw tap here (all the stuff I have is metric, and regular M8 I have around don&#039;t fit).</p></blockquote></div><p>I think this is the reason some people use a spring between the two nuts (with a printed part to hold the top nut from turning).&nbsp; This way there is constant spring force pushing down on the bed.&nbsp; <br />This is what I have done (added the spring) and it seems to work well.&nbsp; <br />This is functionally the same as adding weight to the bed, except the weight is pressing directly on the nut instead of being on the bed and possibly warping the bed or something.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rickk]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/307/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-02T22:10:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Z axis positioning fix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>cmetzel wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I don&#039;t have it done to mine, but from the way I understand it by placing the printed piece over it you are locking the distance between the lower nut and the new nut.&nbsp; They have to rotate together and so they can&#039;t rotate closer to each other and bind.&nbsp; <br />&quot;Uterine&quot; nut is not the right translation.&nbsp; Uterine is the inside wall of one of the lady parts.</p></blockquote></div><p>Lol, somehow I knew that translation was a lie!<br />I thought about something like a split lead nut variation (That should be the proper translation) of something like 8-10mm height.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Necromant]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/525/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-02T21:32:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Z axis positioning fix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t have it done to mine, but from the way I understand it by placing the printed piece over it you are locking the distance between the lower nut and the new nut.&nbsp; They have to rotate together and so they can&#039;t rotate closer to each other and bind.&nbsp; </p><p>&quot;Uterine&quot; nut is not the right translation.&nbsp; Uterine is the inside wall of one of the lady parts.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/78/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-02T20:52:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Z axis positioning fix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the warning.<br />I&#039;ve seen these on the wiki, and was advised against them by a man with over 30 years expertise in mechanical engineering, since adding a second nut (From what I got there&#039;s already one under the piece of wood, correct if I&#039;m wrong. I&#039;ll be disassembling it to have a look tomorrow). So in this way they can easily jam the threaded rod after a while.&nbsp; <br />So I think of adding a custom-machined brass nut there with adjustment screws (Surely there&#039;s a nice translation of &#039;маточная гайка&#039; to english, but &#039;uterine nut&#039; that gogle translate suggests doesn&#039;t sound like something proper).<br />It will be a longer, but I hope the proper way, if I manage to find a 5/16 screw tap here (all the stuff I have is metric, and regular M8 I have around don&#039;t fit).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Necromant]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/525/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-02T20:18:29Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/8314/#p8314</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Z axis positioning fix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There is a fix at the wiki- <a href="http://wiki.solidoodle.com/z-axis-anti-backlash">http://wiki.solidoodle.com/z-axis-anti-backlash</a></p><p>And a simpler version at Thingiverse - <a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:36177">http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:36177</a></p><p>The one at Thingiverse might need a spring under the nut, because it requires the nut to be at a certain orientation which might not be the right amount of tension on your particular printer.</p><p>I went a slightly messier route- I tightened the 5/16-18 nut enough to remove the backlash, and then hot glued it into place.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-02T19:58:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Z axis positioning fix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d take that off asap.&nbsp; You&#039;re z stepper motor wasn&#039;t spec&#039;d out for that additional weight. </p><p>Do a search on here for z wobble there are a number of proven fixes on here already.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cmetzel]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/78/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-02T19:55:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Z axis positioning fix]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My 2nd gen solidoodle arrived 3 weeks ago with _very_ noticeable z positioning oscillations, even with .3 mm layers. <br />So far it looks like I&#039;m not the only one suffering from these, so here&#039;s my quick and simple fix: adding a weight as close to the screw as possible (I used an old steel brick from a machine long gone <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> ), decreases the artifacts a lot. Hope it helps. <br />Pictures attached, more lenthy text in english and russian in my blog here: ncrmnt.org/wp/2013/01/03/solidoodle-the-quickest-fix-of-z-axis-wobble/</p><p>I have come up with a (hopefully) better solution, but it will require to wait till the hardware shops open after the holidays here (in russia) are over. I will post the tests and the description of my second fix when I test it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Necromant]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/525/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-02T19:28:23Z</updated>
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