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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Lawsy Carriages questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I used, hardened steel shafts from McMaster Carr. </p><p>I am working on designing a new larger print bed holder for a larger printer that I&#039;m working on from scratch. Dimensions should come out to be about 18&quot;x18&quot;x18&quot;/20&quot;. </p><p>Currently printing out pieces for the gantry controls on it. Have to finish up the bed holder itself and reprint it, seen a few things I did not like in the print.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[blarz]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-05-13T19:15:23Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mdrVB6 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> If you look on McMaster you can see the tolerance of an 8mm drill rod is +/- 0.013 or +/- 0.025mm depending on type while the tolerance of a hardened steel shaft is -0.009 to +0.000mm.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thank you, I did not notice that. I wasn&#039;t looking at tolerances, just thinking of other stuff around the shop that comes in 8mm and is pretty hard and straight. Stupid me!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TheBaron]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-05-13T15:19:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Lawsy Carriages questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>TheBaron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you&#039;re having trouble getting 8mm rod, try searching for &quot;drill rods&quot;. They&#039;re the hardened steel rods that people make custom drill bits with so the tolerances are pretty tight. a 36&quot; rod should be in the $10-12 range.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>This is not good advice.&nbsp; A &quot;drill rod&quot; is typically of a looser tolerance than a &quot;hardened steel shaft&quot;.&nbsp; There is a reason drill rods are a lot cheaper.&nbsp; If you look on McMaster you can see the tolerance of an 8mm drill rod is +/- 0.013 or +/- 0.025mm depending on type while the tolerance of a hardened steel shaft is -0.009 to +0.000mm.&nbsp; Any + deviation is going to cause grinding, hard motion or binding on your bearings and therefore print errors.</p><p>I do not recommend ordering drill rod instead of hardened steel shaft just because it is cheaper.&nbsp; I have bought hardened steel shafts from McMaster and Folger tech with good results.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-05-13T12:48:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Lawsy Carriages questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you&#039;re having trouble getting 8mm rod, try searching for &quot;drill rods&quot;. They&#039;re the hardened steel rods that people make custom drill bits with so the tolerances are pretty tight. a 36&quot; rod should be in the $10-12 range.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-05-07T20:22:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Looking to add bearings to the bed arm, working on a print but it&#039;s rather large as I&#039;m currently working it for a 18&quot;x18&quot;x24&quot; printer, I will upload it to Thingerverse when I get it finished correctly. Have had issues with getting lm8uu bearings to fit. Finally got an answer on another post about sizing issues. doing 3rd print now. Here&#039;s a pic of part of the bed.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://soliforum.com/i/?5trkBWa.jpg" alt="http://soliforum.com/i/?5trkBWa.jpg" /></span></p><p>It&#039;s a work in progress but trying to think of a way to add the slop nut to it. It&#039;s a 15:35hr print so it&#039;s a pain....Also it will have to be printed in pieces since it&#039;s going to be so large, even if it&#039;s a print for an sd3.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[blarz]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-04-22T00:19:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your help. The forum has an anti spam rule that only allows users to post links after 10 or so posts.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Quintox303]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-01-23T10:48:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Quintox303 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;m looking to do this upgrade very soon as soon as I get my e3d sorted out. I live in Australia and I&#039;m fairly sure that mcmaster don&#039;t deliver here. I&#039;ve already got my LM8UU&#039;s and some spare m3 screws. </p><p>I&#039;ve replaced one of my rods in the past after I realised that my glass bed wasn&#039;t warped but the stock shaft was severely bent. I went to a local stainless steel shop and got them to cut me a rod there. Probably not the most reliable place for a precision shaft haha.</p><p>Anyway I&#039;m wondering if anyone knows any other place that I could get some high quality shafts like the ones that mcmaster sells. Any help would be great. </p><p>Thanks,&nbsp; Matt</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m in the same situation, in that mcmaster is not an option. In ebay there&#039;s some 8mm shafts available, and these are for RepRap Prusa. Can&#039;t link directly for some reason, but you&#039;ll find them on ebay with a search like &quot;Prusa i3 Rework Single Sheet Frame T8 Rod 8mm Smooth Rods Rail Bar Linear Shaft&quot;.</p><p>There&#039;s 6 usable shafts (i.e. long enough, need to be cut in length) for around $35,- Seems reasonable, wonder if anybody has any experiences?</p><p>veehoo</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-01-23T09:25:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Lawsy Carriages questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m looking to do this upgrade very soon as soon as I get my e3d sorted out. I live in Australia and I&#039;m fairly sure that mcmaster don&#039;t deliver here. I&#039;ve already got my LM8UU&#039;s and some spare m3 screws. </p><p>I&#039;ve replaced one of my rods in the past after I realised that my glass bed wasn&#039;t warped but the stock shaft was severely bent. I went to a local stainless steel shop and got them to cut me a rod there. Probably not the most reliable place for a precision shaft haha.</p><p>Anyway I&#039;m wondering if anyone knows any other place that I could get some high quality shafts like the ones that mcmaster sells. Any help would be great. </p><p>Thanks,&nbsp; Matt</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-01-22T14:05:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey silly question but, Has anyone tried anything like this for the z axis? Besides the finer threaded z-rod?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-01-16T20:57:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jagowilson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>280mm but tbey don&#039;t have to be precise. That measurement comes from Lawsy&#039;s instructions so I take no responsibility if it&#039;s wrong. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>That sounds right but they are the same length as the stock rods so just measure those.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-01-15T22:16:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>280mm but tbey don&#039;t have to be precise. That measurement comes from Lawsy&#039;s instructions so I take no responsibility if it&#039;s wrong. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-01-15T21:37:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>No no no, you misunderstand what I meant. I have the 8mm shafts from mccaster, they came in the next day. I know how to gauge the length of the top two rails, but I was hoping someone had the measurements of the length they need to be cut to for the carriage rails.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[blarz]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-01-15T21:31:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>n2ri wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I thought old rods/shafts could be re-used if you can cut old carriages loose from them clean?</p></blockquote></div><p>sure, but the ones on the printer are junk compared to what you can buy 3rd party. right now im using my bent-as-hell stock x rods on my x axis. I broke away the old carriages pretty easily with just one whack of a hammer. They&#039;re printed at like... 30% infill, so obviously the carriages didn&#039;t survive.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-01-14T22:41:30Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I thought old rods/shafts could be re-used if you can cut old carriages loose from them clean?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-01-14T22:28:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you put in SAE rods your lm8uus will be worthless. The rod will either be too big or too small...</p><p>If you&#039;re referring to length, get something longer than you need and cut it.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-01-14T22:26:00Z</updated>
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