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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>After a few tests, I have found blue painters tape works great for larger objects and glue is a must for small (~1&quot; surface area) objects, though I generally use glue (Elmers purple) now even though it&#039;s a bit harder to clean up. Quality is much better than before. Believe it or not, the Mac version of XYZWare appears to produce better prints than the windows software, as well as looking and &quot;feeling&quot; much nicer. Thanks for all your help!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pbcrazy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8804/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-01-17T00:50:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Regarding multiple uses of glue application, I have been doing this. Seems like one coat lasts a good while.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tonyno]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8582/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-01-07T22:26:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pbcrazy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Out of curiosity, what is the &quot;Auto Repair&quot; option when sending the object to the printer in XYZWare (right next to supports and rafts)?</p></blockquote></div><p>It does not work, but if it did it is supposed to examine the model and look for errors and water tightness like they do when you submit your model to Netfabb cloud services. The majority of the models on thingiverse have never actually been proven printable so they need to be fixed before they can be printed.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7731/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-01-07T18:42:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity, what is the &quot;Auto Repair&quot; option when sending the object to the printer in XYZWare (right next to supports and rafts)?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pbcrazy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8804/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-01-07T16:08:37Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/77864/#p77864</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>carl_m1968 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>pbcrazy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just tried the dog print again and something in the first 5 minutes the extruder head knocked over the two back legs and screwed the entire print up (.2mm layer height, 20% fill, supports and rafts). Since I&#039;m using the painter&#039;s tape I feel like I should move it down a bit, but I&#039;m not sure if it knocked the legs over because it is too close, I&#039;m using crappy settings, or the abs is sticking and dragging the legs breaking them free from the bed.<br />Anybody have similar situations/solutions?</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Once the initial layer is laid, each successive layer is placed on top. It should never touch a previous layer. I honestly was having similar issues with the painters tape. For one it would get pulled from the bed if my part curled on the edges and that would allow it to curl. I also had a few parts fall over as well. This is simply due to the drag of laying each layer exceeds the adhesion to the tape. </p><p>I went to clean glass and Elmers glue sticks. I have since had no issue with prints falling over or even curling on edges. You just have to make sure it cools to room temp. If it does it should lift right off with little effort.</p><p>The Elmers sticks clean up with a damp cloth followed by a dry cloth and the bed is spotless and ready again. Just make sure you use the manual bed level procedure which is a sticky at the top of this section.</p></blockquote></div><p>I have also found this to be the case &amp; also switched back to glass and glue.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rockosmodlife]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8334/</uri>
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			<updated>2015-01-07T16:08:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/77862/#p77862</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#039;ll try glue again, just the painter&#039;s tape is so much easier to apply and remove (not to mention it can be used a few times). I&#039;ll try the glue and report back (hopefully solving my problem. If so I may just use painter&#039;s tape for larger objects and glue for smaller). Thanks!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pbcrazy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8804/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-01-07T03:35:46Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/77803/#p77803</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pbcrazy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just tried the dog print again and something in the first 5 minutes the extruder head knocked over the two back legs and screwed the entire print up (.2mm layer height, 20% fill, supports and rafts). Since I&#039;m using the painter&#039;s tape I feel like I should move it down a bit, but I&#039;m not sure if it knocked the legs over because it is too close, I&#039;m using crappy settings, or the abs is sticking and dragging the legs breaking them free from the bed.<br />Anybody have similar situations/solutions?</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Once the initial layer is laid, each successive layer is placed on top. It should never touch a previous layer. I honestly was having similar issues with the painters tape. For one it would get pulled from the bed if my part curled on the edges and that would allow it to curl. I also had a few parts fall over as well. This is simply due to the drag of laying each layer exceeds the adhesion to the tape. </p><p>I went to clean glass and Elmers glue sticks. I have since had no issue with prints falling over or even curling on edges. You just have to make sure it cools to room temp. If it does it should lift right off with little effort.</p><p>The Elmers sticks clean up with a damp cloth followed by a dry cloth and the bed is spotless and ready again. Just make sure you use the manual bed level procedure which is a sticky at the top of this section.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[carl_m1968]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7731/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-01-07T03:15:01Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/77794/#p77794</id>
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		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just tried the dog print again and something in the first 5 minutes the extruder head knocked over the two back legs and screwed the entire print up (.2mm layer height, 20% fill, supports and rafts). Since I&#039;m using the painter&#039;s tape I feel like I should move it down a bit, but I&#039;m not sure if it knocked the legs over because it is too close, I&#039;m using crappy settings, or the abs is sticking and dragging the legs breaking them free from the bed.<br />Anybody have similar situations/solutions?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pbcrazy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8804/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-01-07T03:03:48Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/77792/#p77792</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ahh I see. </p><p>Thanks.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gee]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7787/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-01-06T17:06:59Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/77701/#p77701</id>
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		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/77682/#p77682" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The lower numbers indicate you are closer to the bed. My belief is that the auto level routine in the stock firmware works better with lower numbers. I&#039;m not sure why, but that&#039;s what appears to be the case, my prints worked better with lower numbers as well.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DrAnonymous]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8685/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-01-06T13:29:23Z</updated>
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		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What is the reasoning behind calibrating to a lower number?</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Gee]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7787/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-01-06T11:36:00Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/77675/#p77675</id>
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		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/77616/#p77616" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Re-calibrated to 195, 185, 195 (that android app really is amazing, so easy. I wish they would make an iPhone version though so I don&#039;t have to use it on my computer). The Penrose print is sort of messy, though I did just print on standard settings (with rafts). </p><p>So for now everything seems to be working correctly (except the stupid door, the clips don&#039;t lock anymore. Thank you for your help!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pbcrazy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8804/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-01-05T23:59:34Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/77616/#p77616</id>
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		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/77563/#p77563" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#039;t used rafts, Is that something I should be using on every print or just prints with low first layer surface areas? I&#039;ll give the calibration another go and use rafts and report back.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[pbcrazy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8804/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-01-05T13:54:17Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/77563/#p77563</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/77543/#p77543" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest removing the painters tape and cleaning the bed. Then do an auto calibration, but get the numbers to be lower, shoot for the 1xx range.</p><p>When printing try using a raft, as this should help. Also print at lower resolution.</p><p>The objects you are trying to print seem like a more difficult print, without a better slicer. I&#039;d start with something flatter and less overhangs.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[DrAnonymous]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8685/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-01-05T04:35:21Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/77543/#p77543</id>
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		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Poor Prints even after Auto and Manual Calibrations?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/77541/#p77541" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you are on the 1.0 and getting good adhesion from the sample files, but not from others things are you using using rafts?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fareforce]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8183/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2015-01-05T04:29:38Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/77541/#p77541</id>
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