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	<updated>2014-12-09T12:52:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Since you have an SD4, try you letting your bed get to temp then letting it heat soak for 10-15 min with the door closed for before starting larger prints.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wire10ga]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/134/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-09T12:52:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>if it dont have to be hollow. use honeycomb infill and it will help hold it together better while being stronger.. that what I do with cylinder shaped items not used as a container or needing to be hollow for use. more time and material is better than all the wasted attempts</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-09T02:50:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>brianthorsal wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I attached another photo. Still can not resolve this. Any more ideas?</p></blockquote></div><p> How big is this print?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DePartedPrinter]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/55/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-09T01:46:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yep, them xyz devenci guys sware they have to cool ABS as it prints. the opposite of what we have all found. I verifide they didnt mean PLA. let em bang their hard heads on the wall I say lol</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-08T01:24:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>1) What brand filament are you using?<br />2) What are your heat settings? <br />3) Have you modified the print speeds?<br />4) Have you added a fan to cool the print?<br />5) Have you installed a slop nut or well nut to prevent Z backlash? I had this problem constantly when first printing until I installed something. And it always happened on one side as well now that I think of it.</p><p>@n2ri- A fan is pretty much required for PLA. You will rarely have good PLA results if you have an enclosure without a cooling fan. With ABS, since it cools too fast, will require a chamber to keep the heat in. A fan for ABS is a wonderful tool is you are:<br />1) Printing something very small<br />2) Bridging gaps<br />3) Have harsh overhangs</p><p>You are correct that ABS needs to be heated until the end of the job. In extreme occasions while printing with ABS slurry, I needed to turn off the bed heat because the temp under the slurry began to bubble, causing warping not on the first layers, but on the current tool paths.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-08T00:58:55Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/74323/#p74323</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I attached another photo. Still can not resolve this. Any more ideas?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[brianthorsal]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8356/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-08T00:31:41Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/74321/#p74321</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>AZERATE wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>+1<br />You are having delamination. This is typically caused from lower heat than need:<br />*No enclosure<br />*Openings in the enclosure<br />*Lower heat settings than required </p><p>I have even seen bad filament do this (dirt/dust/moisture)<br />Any time this happens to me, which is rare, I change the layer height and it eliminates the problem.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>thanks for this post. got in a big debate over this with the devinci guys last week they all claim you need a parts fan to cool the layers as they extrude to prevent this. I said ABS has to have heated bed til finished printing so how does fast cooling upper layers keep this from happening. they have inclosures but still issues on long prints.</p><p>geez them guys where hard headed. thought I was going nuts lol. finally saw I was in the devinci forum so just left it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-08T00:03:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/74312/#p74312</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Its a Solidoodle 4. Also, yes the bed is calibrated/leveled.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[brianthorsal]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8356/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-07T23:18:58Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/74304/#p74304</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Dont know what machine you have, but if it is an open frame, try some cardboard sides on it to see how it will do.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wire10ga]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/134/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-07T21:55:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Have you properly leveled your bed lately? May need to be more dialed in.<br />You could have good adhesion on the first layer, but as it builds higher and the infill cools and tugs, it is possible it is giving this result.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-07T21:54:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the information. Also, this mostly only happens on one side.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[brianthorsal]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8356/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-07T21:50:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>AZERATE wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>+1<br />You are having delamination. This is typically caused from lower heat than need:<br />*No enclosure<br />*Openings in the enclosure<br />*Lower heat settings than required</p></blockquote></div><p>+1, also try a lower infill</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wire10ga]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/134/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-07T21:45:48Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/74295/#p74295</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/74293/#p74293" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>+1<br />You are having delamination. This is typically caused from lower heat than need:<br />*No enclosure<br />*Openings in the enclosure<br />*Lower heat settings than required </p><p>I have even seen bad filament do this (dirt/dust/moisture)<br />Any time this happens to me, which is rare, I change the layer height and it eliminates the problem.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-07T21:28:08Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/74293/#p74293</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It looks like layer separation(cracking).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[satman49]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/574/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-07T21:21:40Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/74291/#p74291</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Weird Print Problem.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>On some sides of the prints its not smooth, well thats not the right word, so look at these pictures to see the issue. Big air holes inbetween.</p><p>Anyone know what is causing this?</p><br /><p>Solidoodle 4 1 month old.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[brianthorsal]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/8356/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-12-07T21:09:20Z</updated>
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