SoliForum - 3D Printing Community — First Solidoodle 3 clone

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-08T01:06:45Z

if this is still around in a few months I might order one. I am very curious about this machine. I'm not convinced it would be anything other than a huge waste of money considering the wiring and supposed printrboard but it might be a nice machine to have on the side that has some upgrades stock. it is likely not worth the money though and if it comes broken, well, i'll put in on my AMEX so i can get a refund.

this is all assuming i get my current machine to the point where I don't want/need to spend cash on it for a while

i bet someone orders one before me and gives us all the details. on the other hand i may not want it because with a cat no enclosure is not an option.

if it works this would be an easy machine for me to flip locally as well. not for profit, but i could pretty quickly make most of my money back.

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-08T00:53:23Z

Then get it shipped free:

http://www.dx.com/p/geeetech-fdm-me-cre … F1oPvk0XjM

This is pretty comical to me. I did mess up about the SD3/SD2 size. I was thinking that $550 was high for SD2 clone.

Its amazing that they took the best part of the solidoodle (sheet metal stamping and bending) and fixed some of the short-comings. Personally I think they were a little too late to do this, a year ago they would have had a better turn out.

I order from Geeetech and DX a lot myself. Not this though, I already have my SD3. It would be interesting to find out how shipping works out since most items I get from these companies do not have the most stellar shipping practices. Although, they are no worse than SD has been historically.

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-08T00:20:06Z

I just looked at DHL, about $281.00 to VA USA

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T20:46:40Z

its not an SD3 size, its an SD2 footprint and like I said in a dif topis once Solidoodle got with China they take old products and make them new again from companys working with them like the contract must have fine print saying they can or something. and since SD2 is discontinued... that price is still fair compared to SD2 prices with the added mods and improvements. but how much to ship to US and what about future service/repairs?

bet they sell more of em worldwide than SD did of their SD2s. its a great 3D printer design for beginers to pros. 90% of 3D prints can be done on it with the 6x6 bed is a great platform for even printer farms on a3-4 shelf rack in garage or basement. shipping here says $172. not bad.

OH and look no Y axsis bolts to bang extruder on LOL

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T19:17:10Z

Interesting machine obviously inspired by the solidoodle. Noting the specs of 150 mm build plate It looks more of the size of the SD 2. I agree a lot done better than the solidoodle and some things like wiring not done as well. Depending on how well they are adjusted and tuned at the factory and how well they are packed they could actually be a good value at that price point.
I see significant design improvements/changes . the SD shape and general appearance is there. But IMHO beyond a simple clone.
Tin

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T18:56:59Z

jaques wrote:

elmoret wrote:
Hahaha.
That's not how geeetech works.
You guys were so unaware of your competition.
Never heard of geeetech. How does it work?
Found this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QE7LsoFLMU

If anyone does get one, the first thing you should do is tether the wiring at the hot end to the carriage. watch at about 40s into the video...those connections may not last long!

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T18:46:45Z

elmoret wrote:

Hahaha.
That's not how geeetech works.
You guys were so unaware of your competition.

Never heard of geeetech. How does it work?

Found this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QE7LsoFLMU

EDIT: Here are the specs: http://c.dx.com/collection/201410/3DPri … 83dprinter

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T18:41:26Z

oh alright, i didn't know that. my mistake.

i'm a sotware engineer too so i understand not wanting to deal with hardware issues as well.

and yes it's odd they did not include the pillow block. such a simple thing when they put in the effort for the other parts of the carriage.

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T18:38:30Z

I don't think John works there anymore, jagowilson.

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T18:37:42Z

The linear bearings are an improvement, but without the pillowblock on the drive rod, I don't see this being any better than the SD2 when it comes to backlash. Since they used a standard Mk8 extruder, it may be easier to add other extruders since most bolt to the top of the carriage rather than the front.

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T18:37:41Z

jagowilson wrote:

the arrival conditions of my sd4 were pretty poor so the standards aren't crazy high. not trying to bash you without justification but you have shipping issues of your own and i hope you've addressed them with the new models. i can compile a list of issues i encountered if you want, but it's not necessary because i've fixed them all already. i'm just lucky my frame arrived square.

Just to be clear, I don't work for SD anymore. I do very much care about the community, however.
I think there are some inherent issues with shipping a big hunk of electronics shaped like a Solidoodle.

Luckily, I'm a software engineer, so I don't have to contemplate them! When I was working for SD, I remember ordering some g-force stickers to check the sort of forces that were being applied to the machines. We never ended up using them, but I was convinced that the packages were receiving unreasonable shocks. During the time I worked there, the shipping standards moved forward by miles, but shipping such a thing for any company is a fairly tricky endeavor.

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T18:28:21Z

the arrival conditions of my sd4 were pretty poor so the standards aren't crazy high. not trying to bash you without justification but you have shipping issues of your own and i hope you've addressed them with the new models. i can compile a list of issues i encountered if you want, but it's not necessary because i've fixed them all already. i'm just lucky my frame arrived square. i'm only driving this thread off-topic to help you improve by pointing out problems i've noticed. i'm not trying to be mean.

raleigh UPS seems to be particularly awful with packages so your packaging was good enough to make it arrive in one piece, so thanks for that.

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T18:18:27Z

AZERATE wrote:

jagowilson wrote:
i could easily build a printer like a solidoodle or the one pictured here for under $400 though
I purchased a used SD frame and a platform. Altogether, I'm at $300+/- and all I need now is an extruder motor and some collar shafts.
I kinda wished I saw this before throwing in for a "DIY Solidoodle", but I'm still gonna get out about half the cost when it's all said and done.

As nice as this thing looks, I wouldn't even think of buying one until I saw someone else actually *receive* their unit. Who knows in what conditions it ships in.

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T18:09:10Z

From the position of the molexes it looks a lot like a printrboard to me.

I also see a Z backlash nut. The wiring is pretty bad though for sure.

Re: First Solidoodle 3 clone

2014-11-07T18:05:31Z

Already got a spare E3D v5 and a soon to be working RUMBA, so I'm not really counting those in since I already had them.

Back on topic though, if I'm looking at the picture right, this seems like a terrible design with a wire bundle feeding out and over the belt. Anyone know what type of board this uses? My browser keeps kicking me off the Geeetech site.