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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slicing with cura, hitting bed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have tested the connector and cabled. I did notice the low guage cable and connector were hot during a print but they are still functioning as intended. Its a fault inside the head from what I can tell with a multimeter. The warping isn&#039;t just down to the base layer, thats infact ok if I can get it to stick from the start (50/50 chance) I use the gluestick and heated to 95. I have tried heating to 100 but the printer has a hissy fit saying the build plate is too hot. Otherwise I would already be running at 115 degrees. The largest issue is warping on layers above 1mm. The print goes shockingly bad, Warping, nonexistant bridging and then knocking the whole print off the build plate or walls themselves. Not to mention stringy prints which I never got at the very start.</p><p>I have tried decreasing speed, changing slicer, increasing filament usage, decreasing filament usage, increasing temps, decreasing temps. Anything I can think of to stop warping and getting better bridges. Though every print I have ever printed needed 8-10 layers to even get a good top bridge with 50% support. Overhanging bridges just dont work. </p><p>Kind of lost as to what to do though this is my first printer technicly. I was one of many who were scammed with the Makibox. 2 years later and I havent got that printer.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rudster]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7585/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-10-18T03:12:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slicing with cura, hitting bed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Rudster, I&#039;ll guess the hotend stopped heating? If so, it&#039;s a known issue and you&#039;ll see multiple posts about it. The connectors for the cartridge heater are garbage. I solved mine by solder, others swapped out the poor connectors for deans plugs.</p><p>As to the curling, that is something that can be mitigated if not cured. I won&#039;t promise your printer will perform the same as mine, but the hotbed on mine can go up to 115C. Which honestly is beyond the point where any of my &quot;surface prep&quot; other than abs slurry stay effective. I prefer hairspray and that tends to not like that much heat. But on a level bed with the first layer being printed close enough to &quot;flatten&quot; a little on the glass, I just don&#039;t have the print lift off, even if the corners warp a little.</p><p>Putting down a 20 line brim and getting good adhesion on that first layer is enough to make most of my prints usable if by no means perfect.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Weekend Avenger]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6245/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-10-17T13:10:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slicing with cura, hitting bed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sadly I can not fix this because the printer head has stopped working after only 30 hours. I lowered the bed to an est 0 and I was getting terrible curling and failed prints galore. In 8 prints I had one that completed and even then it was terrible. This included multiple tests from Slic3r, Cura and the default software including the preloaded test prints. XYZ refusing to help because it was purchased through a business so they do not have any guaranties to honor in New Zealand.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rudster]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7585/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-10-17T06:46:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slicing with cura, hitting bed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The problem is the order it&#039;s being moved in. First the platform is being moved down 15mm, then it&#039;s coming back up to .35mm of the head and it&#039;s hitting because the Zero isn&#039;t as Cura expects it to be.</p><p>The solution to making all of them work is to &quot;Zero&quot; as Cura expects it to be then rerun the DaVinci firmware bed level until the two match the same spot, or do a manual edit of the Z Zero position with a G92 command. The &quot;code&quot; fix version is detailed below.</p><p>Courtesy of RepRapWiki<br />&quot;G92: Set Position<br />Example: G92 X10 E90<br />Allows programming of absolute zero point, by reseting the current position to the values specified. This would set the machine&#039;s X coordinate to 10, and the extrude coordinate to 90. No physical motion will occur.<br />A G92 without coordinates will reset all axes to zero.&quot;</p><p>So to do this just for Cura, you&#039;d need to slice with XYZware, turn it off before the print knowing that the first layer is about .3 for the head above the plate. Measure the distance. Slice with Cura, turn the printer off when it does the 15MM move and measure that distance. Do the math, add the G1 Z?? then a G92 Z0 added to the code at the start of the gcode Cura generates or have it do it as part of it&#039;s start section. This would involve a bit of work, but would solve the issue. If you can&#039;t measure it easily, just start with a safe value (say 5mm) keep backing it off .3 at a time until the filament is close enough to stick to the glass. Then .05 or less until your satisfied with how much a line &quot;flattens&quot; on the first layer of a print.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Weekend Avenger]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6245/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-10-15T05:03:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slicing with cura, hitting bed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The issue is I would also like to use Slic3r and other slicers without issue (Im still not set on a slicer) and manually adjusting the bed by eye for cura just seems counter productive. There must be a line or two that can easily be changed that woud fix this issue.<br />Small differences include <br />G28 ; home all axes<br />vs<br />G28 X0 Y0&nbsp; ;move X/Y to min endstops<br />G28 Z0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;;move Z to min endstops<br />G1 Z15.0 F4200 ;move the platform down 15mm</p><p>Removing the lowering of z by 15mm and or changing G28 X0 Y0 G28 Z0 to just G28 make a difference? I just dont want to throw random bits of gcode at the printer and find it smacking the print bed again and damaging it. The Z axes is the sme in both slic3r and cura so the whole z0.35 thing does not make sence to be causing it. Functions of the F commands?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rudster]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7585/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-10-14T07:44:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slicing with cura, hitting bed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just looking at the giftbox code, I notice that your speed is set very fast (not related to the problem your having, but will probably cause you issue&#039;s).</p><p>Your version of Cura is setting the first layer start at .35 above what Cura thinks is Zero. I have mine set to .3 first layer so I&#039;m running a bit closer than you are, but the problem your having is that your Zero in firmware isn&#039;t very close to reality.</p><p>The best solution if you plan on using Cura is to slice a file and then edit it. Have the head move to whatever distance you&#039;ve set the first layer to (appears to be .35) but edit it so it NEVER attempts to go over the glass. Once it does this move and then stops, turn the printer off and adjust the screws until you have a .35 gap when you move the head over the glass.</p><p>I could be wrong since I&#039;m not and expert in gcode, but I&#039;d think changing the line in your labyrinthGiftBox_bottom.gcode file at the top of layer 0 from G1 F4200 X92.660 Y74.957 Z0.350 to G1 F2700 X0 Y0 Z0.350 would make the bed go to the right level but have the head stay parked, you delete the rest of the file after that. You would then be able to turn off the machine and start adjusting until you have a real 0 on the Z setting.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Weekend Avenger]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-10-14T04:51:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Slicing with cura, hitting bed]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So i have had my printer for a bit over 2 weeks now. Got sick of the stock software quickly, Started using Slic3r and using scripts to convert gcode and then print but then got sick of problems with slic3r so I installed open ware mod and Cura. This is where larger problems arise. I am using firmware 1.1.J<br />So Anything I slice in slic3r works fine. Can just throw the gcode in to modified xyzware software and it prints fine (Though long delay before it starts printing) I though, Well cura is just easier to use and supposedly does supports better I would try cura. Obviously I set up a print, Sliced it, Edited all the G0 commands to G1 and thought it will print. Bang, The print head rams into the platform and starts scratching. Quickly stop, check for damage (No cracks or anything thank god) and look at the code. <br />Comparing the code between a slic3r print and cura and they take two different approaches. I have linked two examples, The GiftBox is the cura print. Can anyone shed some light on what I can do to sort this? I cant seem to get KISSlicer to work, Slic3r on large prints stops on supports when slicing and Cura tries to kill the platform.<br />If someone could shed some light on how I can get cura to print, I would be very happy.</p><p>Rudster</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rudster]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-10-13T09:26:29Z</updated>
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