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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pangu I3 printer X and Y shifting during printing (based on Prusa I3)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i&#039;m happy for you... <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> now time to print serious things <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-10-17T16:55:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pangu I3 printer X and Y shifting during printing (based on Prusa I3)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hello,</p><p>I&#039;m back and I receive he ramps 1.4, cable it and test it.<br />I only have one thing to say: WONDERFULL!!!!<br />I have no more shifting and my printing quality has increase (much less delamination and cleaner quality).<br />I really recommand to switch to ramps 1.4 (instead of melzi board).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[manu01]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-10-14T21:11:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pangu I3 printer X and Y shifting during printing (based on Prusa I3)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />I have ordered a 50€ ramps 1.4 board.<br />It&#039;s a little more than the one from Ali but it comes from France (even if the board is a chinese one) so I should have it in the coming days.</p><p>I&#039;ll inform you!!!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[manu01]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-09-22T20:21:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pangu I3 printer X and Y shifting during printing (based on Prusa I3)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yep.. arduino/ramps 1.4 is better choice than the melzi...</p><p>the difference ? hmmmm 60 euros ? joke ;P</p><p>looke here :&nbsp; <br /><a href="http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Free-shipping-3D-Printer-RepRap-Steppermotors-Megatronics-V2-0-Main-Driver-BoardBoard-Stepper-Motors/210094_1548077768.html"> arduino mega2560+ramps 1.4+ 5pcs A4988 Stepper Driver Module ...&nbsp; 24 euros shipping include to france</a></p><p>ok, you need to wait something between 1 to 3 weeks for delivered...</p><p>the only difference i found between a Chinese clone of ramps 1.4 and other is sometimes the power drivers of the hot bed that can&#039;t support heavy current... but the the pangu i3 bed current is not very hight... so no problem... and at this price, you can even take a second one for spare purpose... i already buy an extruder from this vendor without any problems ( shop : <a href="http://www.aliexpress.com/store/210094">http://www.aliexpress.com/store/210094</a> ) ... if you didn&#039;t know Ali systeme, its&#039;like a chinese amazon with a size of amazon+ebay together...</p><p>for the method, yep...&nbsp; you can even try to use the temp ramp number 1 from standard firmware .. it&#039;s the one that is used in the original pangu sprinter firmware...</p><p>you can also add the the temp ramp i made and extract them from the marlin firmware...</p><p>but i think you can also use my marlin firmware for pangu i3 with ramps board, you just need to change only the board type in the firmware and that&#039;s it ...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/40/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-22T11:29:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pangu I3 printer X and Y shifting during printing (based on Prusa I3)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I unfortunatly already did this test ;-(<br />I use a plastic srewdriver but I thing I have short circuited something with the multimeter pin.</p><p>I thought about replacing the A4988 but it&#039;s not possible.<br />The melzi board has too much thermal problems and as it&#039;s impossible to replace the drivers, I&#039;m really thinking about replacing this board with a ramps 1.4. </p><p>After having a look on internet, I saw many board at many prices (arduino + 5 drivers+ramps board: price from 40 to 100€).<br />I wonder:<br /> - What are the differences between a 40€ ramps 1.4 and a 100€ ramps 1.4?<br /> - Do you see any better board (for approximatly the same price)?<br /> - @YSB: I thought about taking a SW for a prusa I3 adapted for ramps and just take over the bed and the hotend temperature curves. Is it the right methode?</p><p>Many thanks in advence for the help.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[manu01]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-09-19T20:45:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pangu I3 printer X and Y shifting during printing (based on Prusa I3)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>arg... seem right...do you use a ceramic/ plastic screwdriver ? you need to not use a metallic one..</p><p> that&#039;s why i never touched this damn drivers... the last test is to connect one of your &quot;dead&quot; stepper to the z axis and try to move it... if it move, you are good to change your card...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-09-19T18:19:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pangu I3 printer X and Y shifting during printing (based on Prusa I3)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p><p>so the results of my test is that I made NO TESTS.<br />in fact, when I started it, X and Y axis doesn&#039;t move anymore so I set reference voltages of each driver to their previous values but nothing changed.<br />I have connected an other stepper to the X axis and nothing happened.<br />Conclusion: X and Y axis drivers are out of order. I may have destoyed them when changing the reference voltages... And on the melzi board, it is not possible the replace them :-(</p><p>Do you share my conclusions?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[manu01]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-09-18T21:06:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pangu I3 printer X and Y shifting during printing (based on Prusa I3)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p><p>many thanks for you answer.<br />My belts are tighten enough and I already got the fan blowing on the melzi (from previous discusions we had).<br />But my steppers were untuned. I untuned them to reduce the printer noise but tjis can be the root cause.<br />So I set every voltage to 1.45V. </p><p>I&#039;ll make a test tomorrow and let you know.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[manu01]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-09-17T21:15:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pangu I3 printer X and Y shifting during printing (based on Prusa I3)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>the problem was common on solidoodle....&nbsp; </p><p>the common case are : <br />belts are not tighten enough , so the motor skip&nbsp; steps... in the case of the pangu i3, it can be the belt under the bed OR&nbsp; the belt between the two side carriages and the extruder carriage... </p><p>solution : double check your belts , do not overtight them, but well enough...</p><p>the stepper driver are too hot<br />solution : put a fan (on the top) that blow on the melzi&nbsp; toward the bottom ...</p><p>perhaps it&#039;s a problem of current of the stepper driver... (search for fine tune current - this video is for a printboard that is the same type <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=BPU0vL-VQl0">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl … PU0vL-VQl0</a> )</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ysb]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/40/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-17T16:39:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Pangu I3 printer X and Y shifting during printing (based on Prusa I3)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p><p>I have a pangu I3 printer (based on a prusa I3).<br />You can find some descritions in the below threads:<br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>http://www.soliforum.com/topic/5436/pangu-i3-the-best-price-quality-ratio/</code></pre></div><div class="codebox"><pre><code>http://www.soliforum.com/topic/5755/pangu-i3/</code></pre></div><p>As you can see in the below picture, I get a shifting in X and Y axis.<br />This is not due to too low belt tension because each axis has a belt tensioner and after the print, belts tensions are OK.</p><p>I&#039;m thinking of two possibilities:<br />1) A thermal shutdown of the electronic board (mine is a melzi board) that cause some steps loosing.<br />2) A too temperature of the stepper motor.</p><p>Does any one of you had already this problem or can help me?</p><p>Many thanks in advance.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[manu01]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-09-16T21:27:02Z</updated>
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