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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pro Tip for Kapton Users: 100 sheets for ~$20]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>+1</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There is no wrong way as long as it works for you <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wire10ga]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/134/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-09T11:59:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pro Tip for Kapton Users: 100 sheets for ~$20]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There is no wrong way as long as it works for you <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-09T01:54:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pro Tip for Kapton Users: 100 sheets for ~$20]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hairspray and Elmer&#039;s glue have both worked so-so for me. The ABS slurry was a last resort. I believe I have issues with my bed heating properly (repetier says 115, but I believe the bed is actually still around 85-90) thanks to a warped bed and thick glass. I&#039;m going to buy a new heating pad/thermistor soon and make my own bed where the glass would sit directly on the pad and hopefully that extra heat will make a huge difference. Maybe I could even print on bare glass...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[browner87]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/79/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-08T21:51:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pro Tip for Kapton Users: 100 sheets for ~$20]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mdrVB6 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Kapton tape.... ABS slurry.... Elmer&#039;s glue stick.... What is that for? <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br />Glass, Hairspray, a good level bed and plenty of squish.&nbsp; Turn off z-lift and run the temp about 108.&nbsp; Problem solved <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Ward, you are obviously an expert so I find it confusing that you are not a believer in the elmer&#039;s glue stick!&nbsp; Have you tried it?&nbsp; It is so much nicer than using messy hair spray, and cheaper too.&nbsp; I never got the hair spray to work on large prints but with the elmer&#039;s glue stick I can print something as big as the bed without even a hint or warp.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t know about the expert part <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />&nbsp; I have used the glue stick and find it is a little messy and makes parts too difficult to remove.&nbsp; If I am being lazy and don&#039;t have my printer dialed in then I may (in a rush) use a little glue stick.&nbsp; I do use the Glue stick for Nylon so I can appreciate why people like it so much.&nbsp; <br />I have found that I rarely even have to use the hairspray unless I decide to clean the glass up then a fresh mist is needed.<br />I just don&#039;t have any warping or curling issues but I think most of that is helped along by the enclosure and the 500 watt bed heater.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-08T15:54:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pro Tip for Kapton Users: 100 sheets for ~$20]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Kapton tape.... ABS slurry.... Elmer&#039;s glue stick.... What is that for? <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br />Glass, Hairspray, a good level bed and plenty of squish.&nbsp; Turn off z-lift and run the temp about 108.&nbsp; Problem solved <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Ward, you are obviously an expert so I find it confusing that you are not a believer in the elmer&#039;s glue stick!&nbsp; Have you tried it?&nbsp; It is so much nicer than using messy hair spray, and cheaper too.&nbsp; I never got the hair spray to work on large prints but with the elmer&#039;s glue stick I can print something as big as the bed without even a hint or warp.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mdrVB6]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4377/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-08T14:41:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pro Tip for Kapton Users: 100 sheets for ~$20]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i Bought&nbsp; a sheet of 12&quot; x 12&quot; .005&quot; kapton adhesive backed square from McMaster-Carr<br />it was a pain to install because it did not want to bend.<br />I have about 60 hours runtime on the tape and still no dings or tears.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dubbsd]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/187/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-08T09:39:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pro Tip for Kapton Users: 100 sheets for ~$20]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Octave sells that roll on Amazon for $45 incl shipping</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-08T06:43:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pro Tip for Kapton Users: 100 sheets for ~$20]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Kapton tape.... ABS slurry.... Elmer&#039;s glue stick.... What is that for? <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br />Glass, Hairspray, a good level bed and plenty of squish.&nbsp; Turn off z-lift and run the temp about 108.&nbsp; Problem solved <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-09-08T04:19:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pro Tip for Kapton Users: 100 sheets for ~$20]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I bought a roll a while ago, and it does work. Definitely off-brand, but it&#039;s the same stuff.<br />However, hairspray and glue is working much better for me at the moment so it&#039;s really only used as an interface for the bed and as a fairly effective tape for strapping cables to things...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4515/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-08T01:28:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Pro Tip for Kapton Users: 100 sheets for ~$20]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,</p><p>I never got around to sharing this, but when I saw the price of Kapton in the Solidoodle store ($15 a sheet!!!!), and read that it should be replaced every few prints (or as it gets damaged) I thought this could end up costing more than filament! </p><p>Now, after a few months of bed-stick trouble my final, 100% works all the time solution is a combination of a glass bed, kapton tape on the glass, and an ABS slurry on the Kapton. I&#039;m going to be building a modified bed soon so the heating pad is right against the glass to try and further reduce warping, but that&#039;s another story. The long and short is, I rely on Kapton and usually end up replacing it every 5-15 prints depending on the prints and how much they stick.</p><p>This is what I found: Bulk Kapton is CHEAP. On eBay I found a 100ft roll (aka 1000+ prints, even with screwed up applications), 200mm wide, for $21 CAD. That&#039;s right. The equivalent of 100 kapton squares for $21. Is it likely true Kapton brand tape? No. Does it work just fine (for me anyways)? Yes. Just search for 200mm 100ft Kapton on ebay and sort by price+shipping. </p><p>I was stoked by this discovery and I hope this helps save some people some money if their personal always-stick solution involves still using kapton tape!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[browner87]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/79/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-09-08T01:21:39Z</updated>
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