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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Acetone Smoothing Issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here&#039;s a thread on smoothing PLA. LdyMox had some good results.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-24T23:44:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Acetone Smoothing Issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yes PLA smells like maple syrup</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-24T19:35:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Acetone Smoothing Issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>rickmellor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>After looking at it more closely I&#039;m convinced that the printer came with white PLA.&nbsp; It is more brittle than ABS and like n2ri said, the purity of white is well beyond the other white ABS I have.&nbsp; I&#039;m redoing the print tonight with the ABS cartridge I ordered and will try the smoothing again tomorrow.</p><p>AZERATE, I understand that I don&#039;t _have_ to do it... I just wanted to give it a shot.&nbsp; I was confused why it didn&#039;t work because I assumed that the printer had come with ABS since I don&#039;t see where XYZPrinting sells PLA.</p></blockquote></div><p>Light the end of the filament and smell it. ABS smells like burning plastic. PLA doesn&#039;t.</p><p>What is possible is that you have an early spool of the PLA that gonna be available for the Da Vinci - I assume they are going to use high temp PLA, as regular PLA will not feed unless you apply external cooling to the print head.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[skywiselh]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6951/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-24T08:09:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Acetone Smoothing Issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>After looking at it more closely I&#039;m convinced that the printer came with white PLA.&nbsp; It is more brittle than ABS and like n2ri said, the purity of white is well beyond the other white ABS I have.&nbsp; I&#039;m redoing the print tonight with the ABS cartridge I ordered and will try the smoothing again tomorrow.</p><p>AZERATE, I understand that I don&#039;t _have_ to do it... I just wanted to give it a shot.&nbsp; I was confused why it didn&#039;t work because I assumed that the printer had come with ABS since I don&#039;t see where XYZPrinting sells PLA.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rickmellor]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7036/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-24T06:31:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Acetone Smoothing Issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The &quot;ABS&quot; that comes from XYZ is at least mostly standard abs if the sample and one replacement cartridge of the stuff that I got from them is what they are still shipping (both white).</p><p>My XYZ filament melted easily in a acetone and vapor smoothing worked as expected. I have some other filament around that is also supposedly &quot;ABS&quot; that is almost immune to acetone, but it came from a different source than XYZ.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Weekend Avenger]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/6245/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-24T05:10:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Acetone Smoothing Issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I agree with n2ri on the materials. PLA is good, but T-Glase is prime and prints like PLA.</p><p>Where I slightly disagree is the finishing aspect. You don;t always need to &quot;finish&quot;. Most smoothing can be accomplished by properly calibrating your printer. I do not own a Da Vinci, so I am also unfamiliar with software firmware settings....but I can tell you I think you are in need of calibrating your bed/X axis and calibrate your extruder. </p><p>Correct me if I am wrong.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-24T03:25:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Acetone Smoothing Issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>yeah PLA, ABS not that bright of white. if making drink cup need PLA of other FDA safe material and need to search how to smooth those</p><p>ABS only needs a table spoon to make less than 20mins vapor then if you touch the print for like an hour its goo coated. need something like a rack with handle to lower and lift print out</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[n2ri]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/795/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-24T03:04:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Acetone Smoothing Issues]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello.&nbsp; I just got my Da Vinci 1.0 yesterday and I managed to get the demo part to print, and after some tuning I got a decent 100 micron layer print out (vase in the pic).&nbsp; I wanted to try some acetone smoothing so I poured some acetone in a crock pot, cranked up the heat and placed my objects in there raised above the liquid level on some aluminum blocks.&nbsp; </p><p>What happened was really strange... I saw next to no smoothing at all on these parts.&nbsp; I cooked almost half a quart of acetone and left them in there for nearly an hour and still nothing.&nbsp; The parts should have been nothing but a puddle of white goo, but they were almost entirely intact.&nbsp; The only real issue was when I tried to remove them and the bottom of the vase had stuck to the aluminum block and came off the rest of the print.&nbsp; The surface was tacky, but not overly so.&nbsp; This stuff was acting like it was partly PLA or something... really strange.</p><p>You can see in the pic that I put in another part made of dark ABS plastic from a Stratasys machine.&nbsp; This part was in the crock pot only 4 minutes and it was starting to dissolve quite heavily.&nbsp; Clearly the acetone vapors were strong as this thing got attacked really well.</p><p>Have any of you seen this?&nbsp; These parts were with the sample white filament that came with the printer.&nbsp; They claim it&#039;s ABS, but it sure doesn&#039;t act like it.</p><p>See the attached image for the aftermath.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rickmellor]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/7036/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-08-24T02:53:33Z</updated>
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