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Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-10T17:14:02Z

Nozzle diameter definitely needs to be .35 but the filament diameter needs to be the actual diameter of your filament, 1.75 is a good baseline but you should use a pair of digital calipers and check the filament in a couple different places and average your result together to get a better number. Your layer height should be .1mm (this is why its a .1mm profile) and your extrusion widths should all be .42mm as well. I think you are using a default profile that will not work with the solidoodle.

It looks like you aren't actually using the .1mm solidoodle profile when you slice in repetier-host. Make sure the dropdowns in Repetier-Host slice tab are correct (Should say something like 'Solidoodle .1mm'). When you hit the 'Configure' button to open up slic3r, it will actually open slic3r preferences with whatever profiles you were editing last, so if you need to make changes be sure to once again select the correct slic3r profile from the dropdowns.

If that is confusing, post some screenshots of your Repetier-Host Slicer tab and another of your slic3r after you click the configure button. That information can help us narrow down what is happened.

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-10T16:43:38Z

Hey SpaceCowboy. Your nozzle diameter should be .35 and filament diameter should be 1.75 unless I've missed something here. Remember to choose the right configurstion before hitting Slice-button...

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-09T17:12:36Z

a brim creates a wider 1mm base around your object. I just had a successful 9hr .1mm print on a glass bed + hairspray with an 8mm brim. My best print to date!

I noticed that the back left corner of my prints was where they were lifting and eventually getting knocked loose, so I just moved my model to the front right portion of the bed.

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-09T16:09:01Z

I've tried a few things, but the .1mm print, the plastic doesn't stick to the platform, and slides around. Any tips? Acetone wash? I saw something about a brim, but I don't understand that completely yet.

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-09T15:19:13Z

So - when I try to do the slice in Repetier-Host by going to the Slicer tab then clicking the giant "Slice with Slic3r" button, it generated the 0.4mm g-code. However, clicking configure and having slicer export g-code generated a 0.1mm g-code, that I could then load up in repetier-host. Going to give it a shot now and see the results.

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-09T15:02:43Z

My first print yesterday (ever) was 0.3mm companion cube from the game "Portal".

Today, I wanted to try to do a 0.1mm print of the same thing, but when I used slicer to generate the gcode - I see this in the comments.

; generated by Slic3r 0.9.7 on 2012-12-09 at 08:53:35

; layer_height = 0.4
; perimeters = 3
; top_solid_layers = 3
; bottom_solid_layers = 3
; fill_density = 0.4
; perimeter_speed = 30
; infill_speed = 60
; travel_speed = 130
; scale = 1
; nozzle_diameter = 0.5
; filament_diameter = 3
; extrusion_multiplier = 1
; perimeters extrusion width = 0.53mm
; infill extrusion width = 0.53mm
; first layer extrusion width = 0.80mm

It only has 38 layers, and that top number makes me think it is doing a 0.4mm layer height. I followed the instructions from the zip file listed above (using Repetier-Host/Slic3r). I also am in the process of reading Ian's post about printing a 0.1mm yoda. I've turned down the print speeds in Slic3r to 30mm/s (as per his suggestion.

Are the above comments accurate - in that my slicer is generating a 0.4mm layer height? Just trying to go slowly before making mistakes. I guess I could just print and see results, but thought I'd check first.

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-09T00:45:23Z

spoke to soon, turned out to be a disaster. was out and about, checked the webcam and the whole thing peeled off and was just bouncing around. had to remote in and kill it.

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-08T22:58:18Z

glass bed + hairspray (using a little travel size Tresemme aeresol from walmart) seems to be doing the trick. Printing a .1mm squirrel guardian at .6 scale. The anchor extrusion in the back right corner actually stuck (normally it gets pulled over and creates a mess) and even the brim stuck on first try.

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-08T20:53:23Z

You can still use Repetier with Skeinforge. Click the setup button and point it to the Skeinforge.py in the Solidoodle folder rather then the one in the Repetier folder.

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-08T19:14:13Z

BotBot, I have tried the 0.3mm first layer setting without much success. I seem to need a raft!

Nicky, it is all about the first damn layer, and I want to use the repetier too. So many variables to play with, it turns into a huge Design of Experiment that I'm just not structured enough to do. So I guess I'm stuck with Pronterface and skeinforge...

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-08T18:34:46Z

perlguy wrote:

Thanks!
I guess my next question, before I get too far is.
I am currently on a Mac. It looks like the host software is v0.51 for the Mac and v0.82b for Linux and Windows.
Is this going to be an issue? If so, I may be able to setup a virtual Linux box on my Mac.
I appreciate any help from those who have already gone through all of this, thanks!
Perlguy

I use a Repetier-Host-Mac .51 + slic3r .97 on OS X 10.8.2, my only issue is the damn first layer. Skeinforge will always work for me, but I am tired of its interface and long slicing times. So I just keep throwing myself at repetier to try and make it work.

Moving to glassbed + hair spray today.

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-08T18:15:43Z

You can print the first layer at .3mm in slic3r and the rest at .1mm.

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-08T18:13:21Z

My biggest issue with the 0.1mm is getting the first layer to stay on. Seems like the nozzle will always hit the lower layer and pull it off. I have no issues when doing 0.3mm with Skeinforge, mainly it seems the raft makes a big difference. If only I could make Slic3r raft or Skeinforge do 0.1mm layers!

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-08T17:07:20Z

perlguy wrote:

Thanks!
I guess my next question, before I get too far is.
I am currently on a Mac. It looks like the host software is v0.51 for the Mac and v0.82b for Linux and Windows.
Is this going to be an issue? If so, I may be able to setup a virtual Linux box on my Mac.
I appreciate any help from those who have already gone through all of this, thanks!
Perlguy

I don't know how the versions differ, other than the linux and windows version is built using C# and .Net while the Mac version is built with XCode and so is native.
I tried at one point to compile the C# version on my Mac using Mono, but it failed. I have not had time to dig in and determine why yet, but I will eventually.

Anyway, I have been using 0.51 with no problems so you should be fine.

Re: How to Start Printing at .1mm?

2012-12-08T14:58:08Z

Thanks!

I guess my next question, before I get too far is.

I am currently on a Mac. It looks like the host software is v0.51 for the Mac and v0.82b for Linux and Windows.

Is this going to be an issue? If so, I may be able to setup a virtual Linux box on my Mac.

I appreciate any help from those who have already gone through all of this, thanks!

Perlguy