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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed Pyrex or Ceramic?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I use a cut piece of silicone baking mat under the glass.&nbsp; My bed is a bit bent so the clips tend to pull the glass down on the back end, so I used additional pieces of mat for shims and this straightened it up.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-06T21:17:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed Pyrex or Ceramic?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>heychris wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>For those who have used glass beds, do you just clip the glass to the existing bed?<br />Has anyone further insulated the sides and bottom of the bed?</p></blockquote></div><p>1. Yes.&nbsp; Plain old metal binder clips. 3 of them (can&#039;t have one at the origin).<br />2. Not here.</p><p>Also: Hairspray and ABS slurry using ABS pipe cement solvent instead of straight acetone.&nbsp; The pipe cement solvent has some MEK in it which also solvents the hairspray (acetone does not do that very well).&nbsp; Super duper stick.&nbsp; We run most parts without a brim/flange.&nbsp; Less trimming.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[rickq]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2632/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-09-06T20:24:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed Pyrex or Ceramic?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pretenda wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Mine has about 6 months of crud built up on it. Both abs and pla stick quite well to it.</p></blockquote></div><p>Does your first layer look like hell with all sorts of high spots/ bad surface quality? If i dont clean mine every couple of days it kills the quality of the first layer</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cozierad]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-06T19:04:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed Pyrex or Ceramic?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hairspray is good for stick, not for warping. Warping has everything to do with heat. As Adrian has said, the heatbed is key, and the more solid the bed (as in holds the heat longer) the better. Glass works great, tile better. But you must heat them up enough (do not go by thermistor, let the glass/tile soak for longer than the thermistor says it is at temp). That has been my experience.</p><p>Oh, with glass, I use a razor blade to clean it (I dont remove my glass ever, trying to keep level for as long as possible). Its faster than acetone.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hazer]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-06T15:07:14Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>saymo606 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>hard to beat the ABS slurry for warping...kicks hairsprays a$$</p><p> if it warps, not enough slurry <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Hairspray is so much easier to clean.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[solijohn]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-06T13:49:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed Pyrex or Ceramic?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hard to beat the ABS slurry for warping...kicks hairsprays a$$</p><p> if it warps, not enough slurry <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[saymo606]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-06T11:52:31Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Next time I start a new piece of glass I&#039;m thinking I will print a cube that covers the entire plate, but just run the first layer a couple of times.&nbsp; That might have a similar effect to painting ABS slurry, but a lot neater and cleaner.&nbsp; I like to think of it as seasoning the glass, the way you season an iron skillet by cooking bacon in it first.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-06T04:47:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed Pyrex or Ceramic?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What Ian said. I use glass mirror I got from Joann&#039;s. Personally, I think the mirror is cool. You can actually watch the filament come out of the nozzle....for the first layer. Aquanet.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Briggs]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-06T04:31:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Mine has about 6 months of crud built up on it. Both abs and pla stick quite well to it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pretenda]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-06T02:33:31Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Why wash off the hairspray if you are just going to put it back on?&nbsp; Better to build up layers of hairspray and ABS residue to enhance the stickiness of the plate.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-06T01:50:11Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just wash my glass in the so k with soap and water</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MolecularConcept]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-06T01:06:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed Pyrex or Ceramic?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>We went with Mcmaster 8476K18, expensive but works great.</p><p>I had also looked at the ceramic glass but the thickness tolerance was double that of the borosilicate so I passed on it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[travis7s]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-09-05T22:52:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>heychris wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well.. I tried the ceramic glass.&nbsp; It&#039;s not very good.&nbsp; I much prefer some recovered from an old scanner.&nbsp; The ceramic never heats up, it&#039;s too much of an insulator.</p></blockquote></div><p>Did your bed any heat up faster by chance?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[nickythegreek]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-12-09T17:15:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well.. I tried the ceramic glass.&nbsp; It&#039;s not very good.&nbsp; I much prefer some recovered from an old scanner.&nbsp; The ceramic never heats up, it&#039;s too much of an insulator.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heychris]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-12-09T16:07:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just pop mine in the dishwasher 80)...easy to do with multiple plates.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jefferysanders]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-12-06T20:47:51Z</updated>
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