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	<updated>2012-12-07T11:44:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Cool, sounds like a plan. To thingiverse I go...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heritageorchard]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/385/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-07T11:44:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My bad.&nbsp; I re-sized the rebuilt model in Repetier and that may have thrown the model off for Pronterface.</p><p> I would recommend finding something simple on Thingiverse.&nbsp; Try a cookie cutter or something.&nbsp; They&#039;re basic enough to give you a good run and you get something useful out of it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-07T04:38:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>heritageorchard wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I wonder is there is a better &quot;first print&quot; ?</p><p>Thanks,<br />Mike</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Something small</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[DePartedPrinter]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/55/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-07T01:51:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well that was interesting. I tried on both the Repetier and Prontface and they acted differently.</p><p>I am using the standard profiles the SolidDoodle folks provided.</p><p>The Prontface one tries to go off the table pretty quickly. </p><p>The Repetier one does the first few layers and then seems to freak out on the Y motor.&nbsp; I will check the tension later tonight.</p><p>I wonder is there is a better &quot;first print&quot; ?</p><p>Thanks,<br />Mike</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heritageorchard]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/385/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-07T00:59:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Woo Hoo ! Thanks cckens.&nbsp; I will try it tonight and report back.</p><p>-Mike</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heritageorchard]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/385/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-05T18:02:05Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/6392/#p6392</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Repaired the model as best as I can.&nbsp; It&#039;ll slice and print now.&nbsp; It&#039;s a solid object so it&#039;ll take a bit more plastic.&nbsp; To open it up I&#039;d have to re-build to allow for inner surfaces and walls for support.&nbsp; I can be done, but it&#039;s more time intensive.&nbsp; This re-build took about 1/2 an hour.</p><p>I think I&#039;ll start a topic on 3d modelling for 3d printing as it seems to be a hot topic.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-05T05:00:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The model is a pretty good one in terms of looking like a house. It&#039;s just that 3D printing requires other priorities.</p><p>When you hear about an object being manifold, it means that it is a solid surface with no holes, doubled up lines, internal extra surfaces or intersecting pieces.</p><p>Achieving this can be quite difficult on complicated models.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lawsy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/51/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-05T03:00:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have a lot to learn about 3d modelling. I will web search the terms you guys mention and get educated.</p><p>The model was made by my son when he was 12. We had an architect re-enter the drawing (in his cad program) for building the barn for real.</p><p>I was hoping we could use my son&#039;s old model for printing, figuring that would look cool for his college application (he is a junior now).</p><p>Can we turn the discussion and suggest a good beginner&#039;s book on modelling for printing?</p><p>Sorry for being dense. I am spankin&#039; new to 3d printing. (I do know graphics having worked on ATi&#039;s 3d drivers).</p><p>-Mike</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heritageorchard]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/385/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-05T02:55:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was going to have a quick go at fixing the model but like I said it has been built the wrong way from the ground up. It would be better to start from scratch.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lawsy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/51/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-05T01:03:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I can see right away from the preview there&#039;s non-manifold edges on one of the posts.&nbsp; Any slicer will make hash of this or just not slice it.&nbsp; Same with some of the duplicate edges.&nbsp; I see insets for the doorways, but as lawsy said, without solidity, this model won&#039;t work as the base has no thickness.</p><p>Deeper inspection of the vertices shows a more complex item.&nbsp; It&#039;s almost all manifold (except for the doorways and that post), but there are a lot of duplicate vertices and faces that shouldn&#039;t be there or should be merged.&nbsp; Sketchup does good work, but you have to plan for &quot;watertight&quot; or else you end up with something that won&#039;t slice.</p><p>I&#039;ll take a better look at the model with sketchup tonight and see what I can see.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-04T23:55:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve opened up your skp file and it has not been modeled with the right objective.</p><p>You have a series of surfaces that have no thickness. 3D printing requires solid shapes. If you imagine a cube, it has no holes or internal separate faces. Removes one side to make an open box, and the software no longer considers it a solid because all of the faces have no thickness. It can&#039;t tell the inside from the out.</p><p>If you make this open box in real life, the cardboard would actually have a mm or so thickness, so your model needs the same.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lawsy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/51/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-04T23:47:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Here are the stl and the sketchup files.</p><p>I appreciate all the help. This is a nice community.</p><p>-Mike</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[heritageorchard]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/385/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-04T23:32:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you are getting warnings about holes, there is a fair chance the STL file is to blame. Both slicers will struggle will dodgy files.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lawsy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/51/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-04T19:48:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, good idea to post the stl. I am at work now but will do it tonight. </p><p>The skeinforge does the python crash whether or not I run it directly.&nbsp; It does try for several minutes (spewing all sorts of warnings about holes).</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[heritageorchard]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/385/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-04T18:16:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Slic3r stl fine gcode wire mess]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/6296/#p6296" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Skeinforge error occurs when you slice from Pronterface, right?</p><p>If this is the case, it&#039;s normal.&nbsp; Go to Slicer Settings in the options menu and slice directly from skeinforge.&nbsp; Then load the gcode from pronterface.</p><p>If this is not the case, then there are other issues.</p><p>Slic3r&#039;s scribbles may not be that unusual.&nbsp; Post the STL and let&#039;s see what it looks like.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-12-04T17:46:26Z</updated>
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