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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Retroplayer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Any plans already for how you are going to accomplish the heated chamber? I am far off from that part still with all the other upgrades planned, but would love to hear others&#039; approaches. What I had considered so far was a ceramic heater intended for a BGA machine which has a dimension of 80x80mm connected to a heat sink with an 80mm fan blowing over the heat sink. Auto door insulation inside the walls of the enclosure.</p></blockquote></div><p>This is pretty much what I did - although my heater is c. 250W and AC-powered (tried to look it back up on eBay but couldn&#039;t seem to find it again), and I use a blower to blow air along the fins and out the end. PID controller keeps the air temp coming out of the heater (i.e. the thermocouple just hangs in the air in the exit side) to a fixed temp; I&#039;ve been using 50C. Whole thing is in a folded aluminium box that just sits in the bottom of the case (probably needs a &quot;caution: hot&quot; sticker...). Case insulation is minimal, seems to get up to temp pretty quick with just acrylic panels (although I&#039;m sure insulated panels would be more efficient - I&#039;ve ordered some auto insulation to test it out). Bed temp appears to rise a bit quicker now too; I suppose I&#039;m helping to shave 30 odd degrees off the difference to ambient.</p><p>At some point I&#039;ll write up about the thing in a new thread, but it&#039;s all a bit haphazard at the moment (I&#039;d be embarrassed to take a photo of the wiring right now! <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-25T00:06:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tomek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh! I agree aluminum is nice. I guess I was objecting to &quot;this block of aluminum weighs like a block of ABS&quot; but I don&#039;t remember exactly and may have been too nitpicky.</p><br /><p>Right now I run a semi-heated build temp and even the 45-55 celsius I get tremendously helps reduce warp.&nbsp; Eventually I hope to go higher to 55-65, maybe 70, but before then I might replace all my internal plastic parts with printed PC parts as it has a higher transition temp than ABS. Aluminum would be nicer, though.</p></blockquote></div><p>I was aware I was not being 100% accurate (well... clear, actually.) The intention was not to make aluminum parts of the exact density of the plastic, but knowing I can shave off a ton. I expect the final parts will weigh close to or less than the plastic printed parts in the end. But I haven&#039;t finished modeling them yet, so I could be wrong.</p><br /><p>Any plans already for how you are going to accomplish the heated chamber? I am far off from that part still with all the other upgrades planned, but would love to hear others&#039; approaches. What I had considered so far was a ceramic heater intended for a BGA machine which has a dimension of 80x80mm connected to a heat sink with an 80mm fan blowing over the heat sink. Auto door insulation inside the walls of the enclosure.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Retroplayer]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-24T09:59:49Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh! I agree aluminum is nice. I guess I was objecting to &quot;this block of aluminum weighs like a block of ABS&quot; but I don&#039;t remember exactly and may have been too nitpicky.</p><br /><p>Right now I run a semi-heated build temp and even the 45-55 celsius I get tremendously helps reduce warp.&nbsp; Eventually I hope to go higher to 55-65, maybe 70, but before then I might replace all my internal plastic parts with printed PC parts as it has a higher transition temp than ABS. Aluminum would be nicer, though.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tomek]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-24T02:57:21Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I also have similar interests in getting the tolerances nice and tight on my machine - I have a hankering to make some working gears...</p><p>If you&#039;ve got the time, machinery and material there&#039;s little reason not to make aluminium parts - I think they will be heavier in the end, but I don&#039;t think you&#039;ll see an appreciable disadvantage to that mass compared to the advantages of their stiffness (especially where loads are concentrated, e.g. around bearings) and temperature handling.</p><p>Note with a printed part, you have the option to magically shave the material out of the interior, which in a lot of applications leads to some very efficient structures (as per Tomek&#039;s point).</p><p>Reading your plan to heat the chamber - I just installed one last week: a fan blows air across a heater (flat plate heater with a heatsink on it) in the bottom of the case, and the heater is PID controlled for an air-off temperature of 50C. Works a charm, nothing&#039;s melted yet, and a 100x50x20mm ABS bracket thing just printed with no discernible warp (a PB for me). ABS parts in the printer appear unperturbed so far.</p><p>Resin sounds messy. Fun, but messy. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-23T05:01:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tomek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Density of ABS is about 1.04g/cm3. Density of aluminum is about 2.7g/cm3. I don&#039;t think you can easily feel weights of the relatively small amount we&#039;re talking about. A guy I worked with would sarcastically say &quot;I will go ahead and use my calibrated hand to determine the stall torque [of a pushing motor]&quot;</p><p>Depends on how much you can shave off the aluminum parts. But 3D printed parts can sometimes be shockingly strong for their weight, partly because you can develop very nice geometries that maximize strength. I&#039;m not sure if aluminum would be better than plastic, for many applications it wouldnt be, but I can see a use in the stiffness around the bearings, but we seem to getting by fine without it.</p></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s less about the strength and more about heat tolerance for me. I eventually plan to build a heated chamber. Not to mention there are several others on this forum having melt-downs of the Y axis stepper bracket. Even if not noticable visually, any warping will cause defects in your print that you are unable to &quot;calibrate out.&quot;</p><p>My main purpose for a 3D printer is to print precision (at least as precise as can be done with a 3D printer) prototype parts. Not Octopi, vases, and Owls.</p><p>But yes, you are right: ABS is light. The real difference is the aluminum is strong enough to cut out a great deal of it to shave the weight off and will still be far stronger than it needs to be for this purpose. And you don&#039;t have to worry about layer direction causing cracks.</p><p>Another option I had considered would be to cast the parts using a high temp resin. Also within my capabilities, though I think that would be significantly heavier.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-23T03:23:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Density of ABS is about 1.04g/cm3. Density of aluminum is about 2.7g/cm3. I don&#039;t think you can easily feel weights of the relatively small amount we&#039;re talking about. A guy I worked with would sarcastically say &quot;I will go ahead and use my calibrated hand to determine the stall torque [of a pushing motor]&quot;</p><p>Depends on how much you can shave off the aluminum parts. But 3D printed parts can sometimes be shockingly strong for their weight, partly because you can develop very nice geometries that maximize strength. I&#039;m not sure if aluminum would be better than plastic, for many applications it wouldnt be, but I can see a use in the stiffness around the bearings, but we seem to getting by fine without it.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2014-07-21T12:52:15Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I might suggest an upgrade to an all metal hot end. The E3d is longer and would at least help with the z height issue.&nbsp; Besides that the stock hot end will have to be replaced eventually.&nbsp; Probably sooner than later.</p></blockquote></div><p>My E3D just arrived yesterday, in fact. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> Waiting on my power supply and SSRs to arrive before I install it. One of the parts I had been trying to print is the MK4 extruder for it. I just ordered one from Filastruder instead. If nothing else, though, this is the one part I would really want to be made in aluminum.</p><p>I also ordered a MK2B heated bed that I will be replacing.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As far as a sub forum for each model... It&#039;s been discussed before and in the end they are all so similar that it really doesn&#039;t matter.&nbsp; Your SD 4 is just an SD3 with an enclosure other than the new aluminum extruder assembly.&nbsp; I think once SD runs out of acrylic then all models will get the aluminum setup.<br />When it comes to machining parts from aluminum... I don&#039;t think there are many of us that haven&#039;t had the same thought.&nbsp; For stationary parts it&#039;s a great idea but with parts in motion mass becomes a consideration not to be overlooked.&nbsp; I&#039;ll let Adrian go deeper into that when you get to that stage.</p></blockquote></div><p>Don&#039;t quote me on it (yet), but I doubt aluminum parts weigh more than the 100% solid printed plastic parts. If anything, it will likely weigh less. My block of aluminum sitting here approximately the size of the X end carriage weighs about the same (by feel, haven&#039;t put them on the scale.) The type of aluminum may make a difference. I am not 100% sure what this block is as it was scrap.</p><p>As for the SD4 being the same as the SD3, I am not so sure. Youtube clips I have seen have looked different than mine in a few cases.</p><p>Anyway, all important points to consider. As for this particular post, I have went to the hardware store today and picked up 3 5/8x1 1/4 stiffer springs to replace the springs on the leveling screws. I also purchased a couple 3/4&quot; springs and placed them on the right and left center beneath the bed. Very little movement in the bed now and prints are coming out much better now.</p><p>An upgrade I had been toying with is to put smooth rods in the front corners and attach the bed to those with a brace. That would help with stability as well, I think. All it takes is a slight wobble and it just stacks up to the point the print is ruined, and sadly it happens when you are pretty far into the print and wasted a ton of filament.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Retroplayer]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-19T19:36:25Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I might suggest an upgrade to an all metal hot end. The E3d is longer and would at least help with the z height issue.&nbsp; Besides that the stock hot end will have to be replaced eventually.&nbsp; Probably sooner than later.<br />As far as a sub forum for each model... It&#039;s been discussed before and in the end they are all so similar that it really doesn&#039;t matter.&nbsp; Your SD 4 is just an SD3 with an enclosure other than the new aluminum extruder assembly.&nbsp; I think once SD runs out of acrylic then all models will get the aluminum setup.<br />When it comes to machining parts from aluminum... I don&#039;t think there are many of us that haven&#039;t had the same thought.&nbsp; For stationary parts it&#039;s a great idea but with parts in motion mass becomes a consideration not to be overlooked.&nbsp; I&#039;ll let Adrian go deeper into that when you get to that stage.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-19T18:32:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Adrian! Yeah, I noticed that. All sorts of things I have discovered so far that are different than things talked about in here and even different in some cases to what others are showing with their SD4s. Most of the tutorials and Wiki stuff has nothing about the SD4.</p><p>There really should be sub-forums for the different models at least. Anyway.. fairly proficient SD4 user here (although new to it), so maybe I will be able to help fill some of the gaps.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Retroplayer]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-19T18:08:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It was pressed on... So easy enough to use a puller or improvise with nuts.</p><p>Newest printers who knows.. They regularly manage to change specs without telling their free tech support team (us)...</p><p>But if they haven&#039;t changed... Its simply a centre drilled rod pressed onto a round shaft (no flats milled).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[adrian]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-19T17:22:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Your spring idea is not a bad one it just doesn&#039;t decrease the lever action the nozzle is placing on the z-rod bushings.</p></blockquote></div><p>Very true and that is another thing to address. I have already picked up linear bearings and flex couplers to upgrade all around. In fact, the objects I have been trying to print have been parts to do the upgrades, but until now I couldn&#039;t even get that far.</p><p>One of the planned upgrades is to put in a new Z-rod that extends all the way to the top captive in a bushing for stability. My brother works in a machine shop with a CNC thread rolling machine (Tesker). I am an electrical engineer and help them out on the side maintaining their machines and they will be making a custom lead rod and nut for me in return. A goal is to have all the printed parts re-done in aluminum.</p><p>I could have paid more and bought a machine with many of these upgrades already in place, but I expected that I would have some issues with those as well (nothing is perfect.) So, I decided on the Solidoodle as a starter since it looked to be the best and most solid sub $1000 printer. Upgrades were already planned before the purchase and lots of research was done. However, I did not expect it to be impossible to print some things right from the get-go even after calibration.</p><p>Thanks. Hopefully I will be able to contribute around here as well and detail my upgrades as much as I have read and plan to implement upgrades that others here have developed.</p><p>BTW, do you know if the solidoodle 4 has a stepper with integrated threaded rod for the Z-Axis? It appears to be that way but I haven&#039;t removed it yet. That means I will need to purchase a replacement stepper in order to do a Z axis upgrade.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Retroplayer]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-19T17:15:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It is refreshing to hear that you&#039;ve gone through all the calibrations.&nbsp; All to often we hear &quot;help my printer won&#039;t work and I&#039;ve done nothing and read nothing&quot;. That being said it really helps if you can squish those springs tight and get that platform closer to the supports.&nbsp; I think you should consider modifying that z-height screw to allow it.&nbsp; Your spring idea is not a bad one it just doesn&#039;t decrease the lever action the nozzle is placing on the z-rod bushings.<br />Either way I am confident in you&#039;re ability to get this working and fully appreciate your frustration.&nbsp; I&#039;m here to help.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-19T12:42:34Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just a thought.... You could just tighten the leveling screws more to tighten the springs up.</p></blockquote></div><p> </p><p>It is a thought, and I did try that. But the Z-end stop would not allow the bed to raise high enough when the leveling screws were tightened. So, yeah, the bed is essentially just floating on those leveling screw springs. I had thought that if some of the bed were actually touching the base, it would help to stabilize. But, no... the bed can&#039;t reach the extruder (even if I remove the Z-stop screw completely.) In fact, the knob that they added to the Z-Stop screw hits the top of the cutout long before you can ever back it out far enough, even if you could. I ended up removing the knob. When you lower the Z-Stop more (like if you were using a thick glass bed) the knob will obstruct the Z-axis bracket when it tries to go to zero.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I also suspect you are over extruding. Do the extruder calibration including extrusion multiplier calibration per the WIKI.</p></blockquote></div><p>Your suspicion would be wrong. I have not only run through that once, but countless times. In fact any time I switch to a new filament, I run it again. It is helpful for accurate layer widths and heights, yes, but that is not the issue here.</p><p>I have went through every calibration suggestion (though several seem to have been written for the SD2 and don&#039;t work as described on the SD4.) I have calibrated all of my steps/mm, flow rates, feed rates, acceleration, jerk, filament widths, etc....</p><p>Just to give you a sense of how frustrating it was. To the point I actually just tried jamming a spring under the bed. If I print something very small, it is nearly perfect and amazing quality. But even something as medium sized as a replacement carriage has been nearly impossible for me to print until I put this spring in place. Finally it printed to completion with no issues after days of trying.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>A good piece of glass on the bed ensures a perfectly flat surface.&nbsp; A stabilizer isn&#039;t a bad idea but it shouldn&#039;t be a necessity just to get a good print.</p></blockquote></div><p>&quot;Perfectly flat&quot; is a bit of a stretch. But, I am planning on that, too. However, if the bed pushes down and rocks, it really doesn&#039;t matter if you use glass (except the extra weight may help some.) Also, once I clamped the aluminum bed to some stone in 8 points, it is (nearly) completely flat and even now. It is pretty much the same thing done to straighten out a warped engine block. I have also been using a dial indicator since day one. So, it is not really a flatness issue.</p><p>And besides, my Y axis lines are perfect. It is only the X-axis lines that seem to flake out.</p><p>Another thought would be that maybe I have the Z-axis too close to the nozzle and it is pushing too hard into the bed. No. I used a thickness gauge under the nozzle instead of paper and have even run several calibration prints to ensure I am getting perfect layer heights and widths which I do, except on the X axis lines. So that&#039;s not it. </p><p>It is a combination of several things that result in the bed being very unstable. I may just try adding stiffer springs to the leveling screws, but I am leaning toward four points to ensure it is always square. I am even thinking about braces on the bottom of the Z carriage to bring the springs out to the four corners.</p><p>There are issues with the belts not aligning correctly, the Y ends bending and twisting, the Y axis bars are not perfectly straight so it &quot;sticks&quot; at certain points in the movement, too much wobble in the Z lead screw, the extruder carriage bounces up and down even at a reasonable speed/acceleration. Screws were loose all over and won&#039;t stay tightened. The cable bundle going to the extruder/hotend is too short and catches on the bed preventing it from reaching the front right corner unless you move it over the side of the bed manually. The filament cooling fan smashes into the left front Y axis end screw when it tries to go to that corner (almost busted my fan when it shoved the screw right into the blades!) I had to limit my bed size to 194x194 to prevent it from moving into that corner. The limit switches appear to be cheap switches which bounce a lot (not a huge deal, but it does seem to affect repeatability of movements.)</p><p>It is poor overall system design. At least in my unit, but I imagine all the others are the same. But, that&#039;s ok. I bought this to learn, and dealing with all these issues is definitely doing that. The solidoodle looked like the best printer for using standard parts to upgrade. And I am a tinkerer, anyway, so I don&#039;t mind. Coming from a Cube printer that my work had bought me (I didn&#039;t get a choice...) it was an immediate improvement even with all these issues.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Retroplayer]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-19T08:25:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought.... You could just tighten the leveling screws more to tighten the springs up.<br />I also suspect you are over extruding.&nbsp; Do the extruder calibration including extrusion multiplier calibration per the WIKI.&nbsp; A good piece of glass on the bed ensures a perfectly flat surface.&nbsp; A stabilizer isn&#039;t a bad idea but it shouldn&#039;t be a necessity just to get a good print.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-19T03:30:18Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I had looked at a similar design on thingiverse and even bought all the parts to build it. But, I could barely get through a print long enough to even make the parts for that!</p><p>I will likely go this route as well, or perhaps even an extension to add smooth rods along the front. But I am really impressed already at how much more stable it is with just the one spring jammed in there (hardware store is closed tonight, so I can&#039;t build anything proper until tomorrow.)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Retroplayer]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-07-19T03:22:15Z</updated>
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