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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to tap small amounts of power from SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>[constructive pedantry]</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>jawhn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>A higher &quot;Amp&quot; rating probably wouldn&#039;t hurt it, but I lean towards not overpowering things like fans whenever possible.</p></blockquote></div><p>You could put a 200mA 12V supply or a 200A 12V supply on one of those fans and they&#039;d take exactly the same amount of power. However, I agree with your tendency to pick a supply with a current rating more appropriate for the load, as this minimises cost &amp; space, and (assuming the supply is over-current protected, which may not be the case with some cheaper smaller ones) minimises damage in the case of a fault. If it&#039;s too small though, it will run hotter and less efficiently, and may present a risk in itself. I usually aim for a supply with 50-100% overhead on the load (much like we do using 30A supplies to run SD&#039;s), as this usually covers a wide range of quality and uncertainty about the true nature of the load.</p><p>Most DC fans have their current draw (0.1A, 100mA for example) written on the label. Add these together, and make sure whatever it&#039;s connected to is rated to 50-100% more than this.</p><p>A more conservative method would be to use fuses to protect separate circuits - e.g. have individual fuses for the heater, hot-end, steppers (i.e. board) and auxiliaries (e.g. fans) all run off one good quality high-current supply - much like a car, where batteries can deliver in excess of 200A if shorted. Panels for doing this are available from electronics shops; people use them in boats, caravans and excessive car audio setups <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />. This would provide maximum protection from short-circuits and other faults, and probably represent something close to best practice. For these machines, it&#039;s probably a little on the extreme side of course, but in the light of recent events on this forum regarding fire risk maybe something we should all be thinking about a bit more.</p><p>[/constructive pedantry]</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-06-06T03:32:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to tap small amounts of power from SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>browner87 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>... Or should I just go the easy/safe way and just stick a 9v battery to the side of the case and wire them to it? I haven&#039;t actually tried, but I don&#039;t know if a 9v will power 2 12v fans for any length of time and fast enough they don&#039;t burn out. ...</p></blockquote></div><p>Before you went with a battery, I&#039;d just use a 12V AC adapter. Something with low mA, like ~200mA or so if you can find one. Thrift stores are a great place to pick up one for a buck or two.</p><p>A higher &quot;Amp&quot; rating probably wouldn&#039;t hurt it, but I lean towards not overpowering things like fans whenever possible.</p><p>Something like this:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.americanmusic.com/images/xlarge/13578_x.jpg" alt="http://www.americanmusic.com/images/xlarge/13578_x.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jawhn]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-06-05T23:01:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to tap small amounts of power from SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Disregard the arrows in the first photo those are the boot jumpers not a fan header.&nbsp; Just don&#039;t want any confusion.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-06-05T14:54:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to tap small amounts of power from SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you recieved your SD new in Dec 2013, you have a Printrboard which has a spot where you can install a header yourself. But just to help you be certain:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>AZERATE wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Bookmaker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/5M8FuMh.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/5M8FuMh.jpg" /></span></p></blockquote></div><p>This is a Printrboard Rev-E</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ldymox wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;item=5352&amp;download=0" alt="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;amp;item=5352&amp;amp;download=0" /></span></p></blockquote></div><p>This is a Sang</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-06-05T14:41:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to tap small amounts of power from SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, I wasn&#039;t yet aware that there was a pre-installed header for a gcode controlled fan. Then again, I have yet to see a picture of a solidoodle with the same motherboard as mine. It must be a really new revision, it&#039;s got a plexiglass cover and all SMT parts (got it Dec &#039;13). I&#039;ll see if I can find that header and maybe run the extruder and X-axis fan from it...</p><p>The Y-axis stepper is heat-sinked to the case so it can wait until I get a power supply (probably a couple weeks) then I can run it straight from a 12v source.</p><p>Thanks for the tips!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[browner87]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-06-05T14:10:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Best way to tap small amounts of power from SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Those fans really don&#039;t use much power. You should be ok to run those fans off that header, it&#039;s just straight out of the 12V so only limited by the track width on the board really. Splice them off the cable wherever it&#039;s convenient (aim for spots are where it&#039;s not moving / can be taped down).</p><p>When you put the extruder fan on, you&#039;ll likely want to run that off the g-code controlled fan output so you can have it turned on and off during the print.</p><p>Have fun!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-06-05T05:48:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Best way to tap small amounts of power from SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p><p>I know the x/y stepper motors of the SD3 get really hot, so I got a few 40mm fans that arrived today and I&#039;m wondering how best to wire them in. I know there is a fan over the extruder stepper motor (which I&#039;m replacing because its bearings were DOA - it hurts the ears to listen to) which already has its own motherboard header. No problem there - snip snip, solder solder, shrink-tube shrink-tube, done. </p><p>Now, the next 2 fans for the steppers. </p><p>Can they solder to the same header? Can that header feed power to all 3 (maybe 4 in future if I get an extruder fan) 40mm fans? Should I splice off of the bed heater wire because it can handle lots of power? Or should I just go the easy/safe way and just stick a 9v battery to the side of the case and wire them to it? I haven&#039;t actually tried, but I don&#039;t know if a 9v will power 2 12v fans for any length of time and fast enough they don&#039;t burn out.</p><p>Any suggestions?</p><p>P.S. a new power supply with multiple outputs isn&#039;t in the near-future plans yet. Eventually I&#039;ll be getting a replacement PSU which I&#039;ll be able to tap into, but I want these fans installed ASAP to avoid killing my motors - they get way too hot for my comfort (I don&#039;t trust my temp gun that says they&#039;re 50 Celsius anyways).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[browner87]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-06-05T01:22:42Z</updated>
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