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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3d and PID tuning]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>TheOldMan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What I find odd is the huge temp leaps (~13 degrees) only occur during the initial heat-up phase.&nbsp; After it passes the target and starts to cool, the jmps are much more modest (max of ~ 5 degrees).</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s not odd, that&#039;s characteristic of an underdamped dynamic system. It means you could use a little less P or a little more D, assuming there&#039;s anti-windup in that firmware for the integrator term (there is in current versions of Marlin, not sure about back then)</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>TheOldMan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ll try dropping the max heater pwm (that the 255 value, right? I&#039;ll find it...) and report back later.</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s the one!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-05-29T17:38:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3d and PID tuning]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, a 1 (#1310). With original fire-cement hot end. It&#039;s been fine until now, despite bouts of break it then fix it <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>I tried using P/I/D of 13.2, .71, 1.66 which I found in another post. Interestingly, it will hold 195 within 0.2 degrees with those values, but alas that is too cool for abs. <br />What I find odd is the huge temp leaps (~13 degrees) only occur during the initial heat-up phase.&nbsp; After it passes the target and starts to cool, the jmps are much more modest (max of ~ 5 degrees). </p><p>I&#039;ll try dropping the max heater pwm (that the 255 value, right? I&#039;ll find it...) and report back later.</p><p>Thx elmoret.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TheOldMan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/257/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-29T17:31:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: E3d and PID tuning]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Solidoodle 1 (!)</p><p>You can either limit max heater PWM in firmware, or dial back the P and I values initially so the algorithm can find them correctly. Currently the controller is too aggressive, resulting in overshoot.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-05-29T03:45:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[E3d and PID tuning]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Finally installed a v5 e3d hot end on my solidoodle 1. (Thanks hunter for the instructions).<br />I can heat to 300+, and have not noticed any problems yet (no led flicker, no slow bed temp, etc).<br />But when I run the hotend PID tuning (M303 S200 C5), I get the following error: &quot;PID Autotune Failed:! Temperature to high&quot;<br />During the tuning process, I see temp jumps up to ~14C.</p><p>Is this normal? Is there something else to change in the firmware to fix this?</p><p>I did a search, and found a few other PID settings to try. I will post back if any of them work....</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TheOldMan]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-05-29T03:38:52Z</updated>
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