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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nice work, and you say you don&#039;t like wiring <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-02T04:04:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Problem solved!<br />Upgraded the PSU to a Supernight 360w. I let it sit stationary for about 30 minutes for observation (just ask wardjr about my confidence in electrical work <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> ), let the bed reach temp for about another 20, warmed the E3D, and ran a test print without lights flickering or temp fluctuations. <br />Who is stoked? *this guy*</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-05-02T03:03:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>adrian wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Question - what firmware are you using, and did you redo the BED PID stuff with M303 E-1 S95 C8 etc ?<br />Perhaps the problem is as simple as, BED PID is enabled, but the PID values are way too small...</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m guessing that question is for me?&nbsp; I don&#039;t know exactly what I had on there but it originally came from you.&nbsp; It worked for him for a while though so I&#039;m guessing power issue.&nbsp; And yes I changed the PID values to the SD values.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-27T04:33:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Question - what firmware are you using, and did you redo the BED PID stuff with M303 E-1 S95 C8 etc ?<br />Perhaps the problem is as simple as, BED PID is enabled, but the PID values are way too small...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[adrian]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/663/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-26T23:41:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The main wires going into the stock PSU are soldered poorly.&nbsp; When the load is high those solder joints get hot and loose connection over time.&nbsp; With the printer board this is complicated with the barrel connection that also struggles to carry enough current.&nbsp; Running the heat bed through a SSR(relay) to its own power supply is easy to do and solves a lot of problems.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-26T15:09:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>grob wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Same, and it&#039;s made worse by the motors moving. All related to how much power is being drawn at any given time.</p></blockquote></div><p>Indeed. We are having the same issue.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>grob wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think the limitation is in the printrboard somewhere, maybe the main power connector. All conjecture, I&#039;m investigating further at the moment, but could be interesting.</p><p>Power supply you linked looks like a goer (specs are right).</p></blockquote></div><p>I am currently running on a Sang graciously loaned to me. So I don&#039;t think the board is the issue. All fans, except my extruder nema fan, are running off a separate ps with a splitter, so I know it is not drawing too much from mods. <br />I would enjoy reading the conclusion to your investigations <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-26T14:17:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>AZERATE wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The lights only flicker when I start heating, so I am pretty convinced the supply is beginning to fail to some degree.</p></blockquote></div><p>Same, and it&#039;s made worse by the motors moving. All related to how much power is being drawn at any given time.<br />However, I&#039;ve got mine hooked straight up to a 30A lab supply (via the original cable/connector) right now and it&#039;s still doing it.<br />I think the limitation is in the printrboard somewhere, maybe the main power connector. All conjecture, I&#039;m investigating further at the moment, but could be interesting.</p><p>Power supply you linked looks like a goer (specs are right).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4515/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-26T13:15:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>After I got the power supply, I just cut off the plug from the old psu and put it on the new psu.&nbsp; The old psu should have the connections description on the outside and says that V+ is the inner wall and the V- is the outer wall.&nbsp; you can check this with a voltmeter set for resistance.&nbsp; Or, you can open up the old psu and see which color wire corresponds with the V+ and V-.&nbsp; No soldering required <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Edit: Don&#039;t forget to check the 110v/220v on the new psu.&nbsp; Mine was set for 220v and the printr board was not happy with it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[michael.t.albers]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2252/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-25T15:42:34Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>(I know how to solder <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> )</p></blockquote></div><p>Showoff <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Did your stock PSU totally fail?</p></blockquote></div><p>Nope. But I am once again limited to PLA since the bed will not stay at the desired temp, so it is eternally sitting with a warmed e3d in limbo. E3D may be all metal, but I know it can&#039;t be good just sitting constantly waiting at temp for the bed.<br /> The lights only flicker when I start heating, so I am pretty convinced the supply is beginning to fail to some degree. Plus, it takes a LLLOOOONNNGGG time to heat the bed. Much longer than before.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-25T14:51:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>AZERATE wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This one should do the job, correct?<br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Regulated-Switching-Computer-Project/dp/B00D7CWSCG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1398435674&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=12v+power+supply+30a">http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Regulat … supply+30a</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Yep, Don&#039;t throw your old one out. (I know how to solder <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> )&nbsp; Did your stock PSU totally fail?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-25T14:35:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.soliforum.com/post/55065/#p55065" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This one should do the job, correct?<br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Regulated-Switching-Computer-Project/dp/B00D7CWSCG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1398435674&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=12v+power+supply+30a">http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Regulat … supply+30a</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-25T14:30:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed not reaching temp]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>AZERATE wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>but my lights are flickering.</p></blockquote></div><p>Gah! I have this too, it annoys the bejeezus out of me.<br />I think the problem is probably at the board level, you&#039;d have to rewire the lights direct from the power supply to avoid it I think.</p><p>Here&#039;s one I think is a good safe pick, but you decide how you feel about $80: <a href="http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mean-Well/NES-350-12/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsPs3th5F8koPF2exM897jTgbGt5tNmzfk%3d">http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mea … 5tNmzfk%3d</a></p><p>Or if you&#039;re brave type &quot;350w 12v power supply&quot; into eBay. I&#039;ve taken a punt on these things before and have been pleasantly surprised. The prices look around the $30-50 mark. Note that 350W is way more than you need, which means if these things are cheaply made and are actually only good for 200W you&#039;re still well in! <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4515/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-25T13:46:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Update<br />I closed out of RH and started over to test with PLA at 212/60 and everything is working perfect. Bed reached temp very quickly and print started as it should.</p><p>Also, I am unsure how long this has been going on for, but my lights are flickering. So I think it could be how much power the E3D is demanding. Which brings me to my next question....</p><p>Anyone know of a good power supply at a decent price? Links massively appreciated!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-23T02:05:13Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Still using the stock power supply the came with my SD2 pro. <br />However, it will reach 100 when not in motion. When I lower the settings to 94, it stays at 93.8/9 as it does for 95 at 94.8/9.<br />At first I thought it could be the power supply failing, but I ran just fine with the stock for the last month or so, and the temp issue happens no matter what setting I try.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AZERATE]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4188/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-23T01:48:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Is this taking longer after the E3D has been installed and is now taking more power? or did you use a bigger power supply. Usually if I am in a hurry I just place a hand towel or hot plate pad on the bed it will insulate it a bit and speed things up.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ronsii]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/296/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-23T01:44:03Z</updated>
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