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	<updated>2014-03-30T06:37:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: (new to 3dp)purpose for extruder and carrage fan]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Controlling a fan with g-code is an option in slic3r I believe. Slic3r will generate the needed code automatically once the option is enabled.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Antron007]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4768/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-30T06:37:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: (new to 3dp)purpose for extruder and carrage fan]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wow much more complicated than I realized. Do you have any links or info on how to control a fan through g-code. Im really excited to start using my printer. It came in the mail the day after I left on a special mission for a month. Its killing me haha its like knowing what your getting for xmas in November.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[3dEOD]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/5340/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-29T02:49:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: (new to 3dp)purpose for extruder and carrage fan]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s hot enough the moment it comes out of the nozzle to stick to the other layer, for the most part.&nbsp; The fan on the nozzle should be controlled by gcode commands to turn on only when a thread is being pulled over empty air, aka bridging.&nbsp; By cooling it as it extrudes, it won&#039;t have a chance to droop, so you can span some fairly wide unsupported spaces.&nbsp; </p><p>Perimeters that are on the underside of slopes (overhangs) have a smaller area connected to the layer below, so there isn&#039;t much holding it in place against the force of the shrinking that happens when it cools.&nbsp; This causes the edges of overhangs to curl up as they are printed, and the nozzle often snags them after they&#039;ve cooled.&nbsp; The fan freezes them in place before they have much chance to curl.</p><p>The place a fan can really make a difference is with small layers.&nbsp; If part of a print is tall and narrow, then it might only take a few seconds to print each layer.&nbsp; There isn&#039;t enough time for a layer to cool and harden before the next layer is printed on top of it, so it tends to squish and get pushed around.&nbsp; One solution is to slow down the speed so there is time for the layer to cool, or have something else on the bed getting printed at the same time.&nbsp; That can add a lot of time to the build.&nbsp; Having the fan turn on when a layer will take less than a minimum amount of time to print keeps the layers from getting squished around while keeping up the speed.</p><p>With ABS it is required that the fan be gcode controlled so it can be activated only when needed.&nbsp; Otherwise it cools the whole print too much and weakens the adhesion between layers.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-28T23:39:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: (new to 3dp)purpose for extruder and carrage fan]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I hope I&#039;m not opening a can of worms by saying this, but...</p><p>It seems backwards to me that anyone would want to cool down the extruded filament quicker. Isn&#039;t the heat what makes it stick to the preceding layer???&nbsp; &nbsp;O_o</p><p>This concept always has me scratching my head... But I&#039;m no expert, for sure.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jawhn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1199/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-28T22:06:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: (new to 3dp)purpose for extruder and carrage fan]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know it all by any means but I know that a fan at the nozzle will cool the filament faster. The faster it cools the less chance of it curling and warping. I&#039;m only 3 weeks into owing my 3d printer and have mostly been using ABS and do not have a fan yet. It&#039;s been a process but I&#039;m doing OK without one. That being said I do plan on adding one in the next few weeks. It&#039;s not going to hurt, it&#039;s even gonna help but, I also want to print in PLA and my research and test prints tell me that if you&#039;re gonna use PLA you will need a fan.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Antron007]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4768/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-28T21:12:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[(new to 3dp)purpose for extruder and carrage fan]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello all<br />im new to 3d printing and ive seen alot of fan mounts for extruder and carrage, I was searching but cant seem to find the reason it is recommended. I would assume (you know what happens when you assume) the extruder fan is to cool the filament down as it comes out. Also I assume that the carrage fan if to keep the filament cool before it enters the hot end. Any info on why fans are needed would be awesome. </p><p>brandon</p><p>p.s. I plan on printin in ABS primarily.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[3dEOD]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/5340/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-28T14:25:44Z</updated>
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