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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m still getting great results with 1 layer of 3m blue painters tape on cheap mirrors and a thin coat of the purple glue stick. I&#039;ve had a few parts sit for about 10-12 hours and still be hard to pull off. I&#039;m sure I would have if it weren&#039;t for the tape. Being new to this I like having that little buffer between my nozzle and anything that could damage it. I&#039;ll try rinsing it under water next time I have a real sticker. I&#039;ve found that the glue stick washes away better with warm water.</p><p> I can&#039;t thank you all enough for all of the tips. They&#039;ve been a huge help.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Antron007]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-04-05T17:23:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have peeled chips out of most picture frame glass that I have used.&nbsp; Sometimes the print does it by itself.&nbsp; The print will cool, pop loose, and lift easily off the glass with a little sliver stuck to the bottom.&nbsp; It&#039;s never happened to me with borosilicate though.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-04T14:03:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>grob wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yup, boro glass plate.</p><p>Yeah, it was a bit strange. I left the thing to cool off, and then forgot about it for &gt;24hrs. It would have slowly cooled from 100C to room temp and then sat for hours. When I attempted to remove it (still room temp), it was stuck so well that in my levering the stuff off (part was destroyed) a chip came out of the glass. Could barely get a purchase on the brim in places.</p><p>In retrospect, I probably should have been more patient, let it soak in water to get the hairspray off, then tried acetone to weaken the ABS.</p><p>Using Tresemme freeze hold as above. Quite different to the red can...</p></blockquote></div><p>That is some serious stickage.&nbsp; Maybe could have run the plate under cold water.&nbsp; You don&#039;t want to have to go through that again.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-04T13:42:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yup, boro glass plate.</p><p>Yeah, it was a bit strange. I left the thing to cool off, and then forgot about it for &gt;24hrs. It would have slowly cooled from 100C to room temp and then sat for hours. When I attempted to remove it (still room temp), it was stuck so well that in my levering the stuff off (part was destroyed) a chip came out of the glass. Could barely get a purchase on the brim in places.</p><p>In retrospect, I probably should have been more patient, let it soak in water to get the hairspray off, then tried acetone to weaken the ABS.</p><p>Using Tresemme freeze hold as above. Quite different to the red can...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4515/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-04T05:33:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s strange it should be loose if you let it cool.&nbsp; Are you printing on glass?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-03T23:56:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just took a chunk out of my glass last night trying to get one off that I&#039;d left to cool and forgot about... Looks like I&#039;ve got no more sticking problems now. Might ditch the brim now it&#039;s in no danger of peeling up. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4515/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-04-03T23:53:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just changed brand of hairspray to Tresemme Freeze Hold (black can from woolies in Aus) and it&#039;s working much better.<br />Method:<br /></p><ul><li><p>Nice thick layer onto gently abraded glass</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Cooked for a while on the heated bed</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Brief spray between prints to top up where the outline was</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Bed needs to cool a bit before the print comes off</p></li></ul><ul><li><p>Still using 3mm brim</p></li></ul><p>Haven&#039;t done anything phenomenally long yet, but it&#039;s much easier than it was. Original spray was coming away with the prints, which was pretty useless.<br />If you&#039;re struggling with spray, change brand, look for different ingredients on the list. &quot;[insert long organic chemistry formal name here]-copolymer&quot; is a good sign.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4515/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-30T12:40:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@Ggunners. Thanks again. I acctually have 3 glass pieces and started doing just that. Well I still like the painters tape on the glass. But for about week or so now, a light coat of glue stick is doing a fantastic job.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Antron007]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4768/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-26T16:01:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Antron007 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>@ggunners and knowack - The purple elmer&#039;s glue stick worked great for me as well. I used a little too much the first time and had a heck of a time getting the parts off. But it&#039;s worked wonders and it&#039;s cheap too. Thanks again for this tip.</p></blockquote></div><p>I print on glass and once it is removed from the bed, it cools in about 2 minutes and the parts pop right off. You can hear the plastic shrink and come loose. Having 2 sheets of glass, lets you keep printing without letting everything cool down.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ggunners]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4235/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-25T03:40:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>if its not sticking with glass and hairspray you almost always have to move thae nozzle closer.</p><p>Rave 4x mega has all the good sticking stuff. acrylates copolymer, vinyl neodecanote copolymer, and polyurethane 14.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MolecularConcept]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2211/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-23T21:59:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hairspray. I use that plus glass and it works perfectly, almost always.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Proteus]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1669/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-23T20:49:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@ggunners and knowack - The purple elmer&#039;s glue stick worked great for me as well. I used a little too much the first time and had a heck of a time getting the parts off. But it&#039;s worked wonders and it&#039;s cheap too. Thanks again for this tip.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Antron007]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4768/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-22T22:27:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>AZERATE wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Skyminer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>After changing the brand of hairspray I&#039;m using, and increasing the first layer width the 175% of .3, it sticks. Rock solid.&nbsp; Like others who use the hairspray method, I have to remove the glass and let it cool down to pop the object off. </p><p>Thanks for all of the tips and help everyone!</p></blockquote></div><p>Glad it is working for you! <br />For anyone having problems in the future who may check this thread, what did you switch to?</p></blockquote></div><p>I could have sworn I&#039;d replied to this...&nbsp; I switched to Finesse Self Adjusting Firm Hold hairspray.&nbsp; Works like a charm.&nbsp; I changed my first layer width back to 100%, and it still sticks to the hairspray, so that must be what it was.&nbsp; I gave the glass plate a couple of good initial sprays, and now just a light spray every once and awhile to refresh things.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Skyminer]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4607/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-22T15:44:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#039;m going to have to change the spray next, this sounds too easy to be me mucking up the layers!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4515/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-22T11:36:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Can't get ABS to stick to glass!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>For hairspray, look for Acrylates Copolymer or Vinyl in the ingredients.&nbsp; I don&#039;t see any reason to clean the bed between prints if you are just going to reapply the hairspray.&nbsp; Subsequent layers of hairspray and ABS residue are only going to improve the stick.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-19T17:20:38Z</updated>
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