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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Using Motor Steps Instead Of MM For Z Axis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tealvince wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;d try adjusting the output voltage on your controller board on the line going to the extruder motor, tweaking it while sending extrude or retract commands until the motor runs smoothly.&nbsp; I did this on mine and that removed the moire effects I was seeing.</p></blockquote></div><p>+1 for that - I did this to mine and saw instant improvement. Aim for as high as you can before it starts making the &#039;tak-tak-tak&#039; noise. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[grob]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-03-11T00:28:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Using Motor Steps Instead Of MM For Z Axis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great help guys, makes perfect sense!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MeshMoth]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-03-10T19:37:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Using Motor Steps Instead Of MM For Z Axis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MeshMoth wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi Guys, was just wondering if there&#039;s a way for slic3r (or any other program) to specify Z movement with steps instead of MM.</p></blockquote></div><p>For step-based layers, you don&#039;t need to change how slic3r works, you just need to set your layer height to a value so that the math works out the way you want.&nbsp; The stepper motor has 200 full steps per rotation, with each full step subdivided into 16 microsteps, yielding 3200 microsteps per rotation.&nbsp; For the default 18tpi z-rod, the firmware is set to 2268 steps per mm, so if you use a layer height of .299824, you should have 680 steps/layer no roundoff at the microstep level, or with a height of .303351 (688 steps/layer), the stepper motor will always fall on a full step (or at least the same microstep) for even more consistent results.</p><p>That being said, I don&#039;t think the moire effect you are seeing is likely caused by the z-axis movement, as any effect would be orders of magnitude too small and would only in one dimension. Roundoff or microstepping is often blamed (mistakenly IMHO) as a cause for banding effects, but moire effects are commonly associated with the granularity in the movement of the extruder motor.&nbsp; I&#039;d try adjusting the output voltage on your controller board on the line going to the extruder motor, tweaking it while sending extrude or retract commands until the motor runs smoothly.&nbsp; I did this on mine and that removed the moire effects I was seeing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tealvince]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-03-10T14:16:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Using Motor Steps Instead Of MM For Z Axis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>... in short... yes <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />To recycle an analogy I used elsewhere... Stop trying to figure out how to use a spoon as a screwdriver.... <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>Just fix the root cause... don&#039;t circumnavigate the globe to just come to the same issue from a different direction <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[adrian]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-03-10T10:38:31Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Using Motor Steps Instead Of MM For Z Axis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys, was just wondering if there&#039;s a way for slic3r (or any other program) to specify Z movement with steps instead of MM.</p><p>I have a moire effect on my prints and i&#039;m guessing it&#039;s the microns of difference from each layer to the next. Its a repeating pattern so im guessing its either the Z screw or layers being slightly different... or both. I figure if i can specify the layer height by the amount of steps, each layer will always be the same height instead of having wonky layers...</p><p>I know you can fiddle with the firmware and calculate all the maths but I figure this way might be easier.</p><p>Just a thought. Thanks.</p><p>Edit:</p><p>Just thought of something else if the answer is no to the above question.</p><p>How may steps does it take for the z axis motor to do a complete circle?</p><p>If i make 1 step = 1mm (for example) and it takes 100 steps to make a complete circle i can just specify slic3r to use 100 MM layers...</p><p>...Am I making things more complicated than they really are?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MeshMoth]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-03-10T08:56:42Z</updated>
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