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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever hear of this happening?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OK, so after about 12 hours of &#039;struding, I&#039;m happy to report that this one produced no ramen.</p><p>Attached is the STL for the replacement fan-guide plate for a Fully Assembled model from OS Printing LLC.</p><p>It is set up to use all OEM parts from the fan, to the bolts, nuts and guide roller.&nbsp; </p><p>There are 4 fan holes, but you only need to use 2 of them and you&#039;ll want to drill them out a little bigger than the 4mm size they print at if only to make assembly easier.</p><p>There are 2 sets of holes in the sides for mounting to the unit.&nbsp; You only need to use one set of them as this will allow you to verify fan distance from the nozzle.&nbsp; This also allows you to pitch your fan away from the nozzle so that you don&#039;t lose temp from the airflow.&nbsp; Height of the fan will be up to you, but I have mine mounted about 1&quot; from the top of the mounting slots.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.kenzden.com/download/FanPlate-20140322.jpg" alt="http://www.kenzden.com/download/FanPlate-20140322.jpg" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-22T19:12:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever hear of this happening?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so far I&#039;ve had about 6-7 hours of extrusion with no ramen. My initial screw holes were too far (ramen after about 2 meters) , so I switched to the secondary set and they worked. I&#039;m having a bit of an issue with coiling, but it&#039;s looking good.</p><p>I had to adjust the fan pitch as the nozzle temp drops when it&#039;s straight up. </p><p>Once I&#039;m done with the extrusion tonight, I&#039;ll post the STL.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-22T00:55:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever hear of this happening?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I built in a second set of screw holes.&nbsp; If it&#039;s too far, I can move it back by about 10mm.&nbsp; I&#039;ll just keep adding holes in the CAD if I need to keep moving it back.</p><p>Testing will show what I need to see, but I didn&#039;t see the need to run it for 10 minutes only tonight, so I&#039;m waiting for the morning, so that I can see the effects over the course of a full day.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-21T02:28:31Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nice! Guide looks far from the nozzle, but might be fine?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-21T02:01:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever hear of this happening?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#039;ve built a new fan-guide plate for the Fully assembled models. I&#039;ve still got to do some testing to make sure that it functions as expected, but it looks promising.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.kenzden.com/download/newfanplate.jpg" alt="http://www.kenzden.com/download/newfanplate.jpg" /></span></p><p>It uses the existing parts from the FA fan plate (screws, nuts and guide roller) so you only have to print it.&nbsp; Drilling out the holes for the fan screws is advisable as the holes are modeled at 4mm. Only about 13m of.1.75mm filament and a 2 hour print time (at 100mm/sec).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-21T00:48:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever hear of this happening?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m beginning to understand why OSP is using 2 guides with their setup. The dynamic fan pitch allows for better positioning of airflow, but it interferes with the way filament falls. </p><p>The kit version assumes a stationary fan with static guide. There seems to be&nbsp; very little room for consistent failure in this, so my mockup will have to try to mimic it.</p><p>The guide is very thorough, though, so it makes a perfect companion for my efforts.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-04T05:56:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Okay. Post some pictures of where you&#039;re at when you get a chance.</p><p>If you do decide to go vertical, you&#039;ll probably want a6 least 6&quot; from wall, and 36-48&quot; from the floor.</p><p>Then again, I&#039;ve never run vertical. All of my 80kg+ came from horizontal mounting, and I can&#039;t remember the last time I saw ramen. I use guide positioning just like the kit instructions.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-04T02:06:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever hear of this happening?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OK, so I did some checking and testing with the Full Assembled model from the Kickstarter (mine&#039;s like v1.1 or so: FA-20).</p><p>As an initial test, I ran with a single guide from the FA models with the other bent out of the way.&nbsp; The feed onto the guide was simple and started out with no kinks or major bends.&nbsp; Fall from the guide went circular and dropped into coils neatly for the first 5 minutes or so, then... ramen.&nbsp; Removed the ramen and then repositioned the guide.&nbsp; Same result.&nbsp; I would get about 2 meters worth of usable filament, then the filament would start waving and producing ususable kinks. Tried various positions putting the guide both toward the nozzle and farther away.&nbsp; Same results.</p><p>Without completely redesigning the guide attachment to be a solo guide, using only a single guide post tends to lead to ramen.&nbsp; Not that this is a big deal for a couple grams of pellets for testing... but it&#039;s something that can&#039;t be done out of the box.</p><p>I&#039;ll need to rebuild out the guide attachment to the fan to allow for a single roller that will allow for the filament to lay across it.&nbsp; I&#039;ll check the STL for the kit to see if I can start there.&nbsp; Then placement and testing.</p><p>It may be a while before I can complete this as the kids and wife are taking most of my time right now, but I&#039;ll report more when I get a mock-up up and running.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-03T22:47:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So removing the lower guide could ease tension on the filament thus reducing the appearance of ramen? I&#039;ll download the assembly guide and see where the differences are.</p><p>I&#039;ll report back after I finish today&#039;s run.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-02T23:13:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I run horizontal, one guide, no ramen ever. The fully assembled guides overconstrain. Look to emulate more of the kit guide setup.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-02T22:54:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Anyone ever hear of this happening?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Late getting back to this...&nbsp; 48&quot; from the floor.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.kenzden.com/download/struder-hotend.jpg" alt="http://www.kenzden.com/download/struder-hotend.jpg" /></span></p><p>So, I&#039;m figuring on trying to get the filastruder vertical mounted to prevent some of the ramen I&#039;ve been getting on start up.&nbsp; Once I get the guides set correctly (go figure, my kids keep playing with them), I get consistent output, but I want to be able to get it on startup.</p><p>So I have a few questions, particularly what distance from the wall should I be and what distance from the floor.<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.kenzden.com/download/VertMount.jpg" alt="http://www.kenzden.com/download/VertMount.jpg" /></span></p><p>I can assume that I have to be at least 48&quot; from the floor, but does being lower or higher make much of a difference to the output?&nbsp; Should I be at an angle or does true vertical help for the output?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-03-02T21:44:16Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Can you post a picture of your setup? Maybe some dimensions of how you have the guide set up, and distance to the floor?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-09T02:12:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah... that&#039;s what it should be doing...</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.kenzden.com/download/coiled.jpg" alt="http://www.kenzden.com/download/coiled.jpg" /></span></p><p>Just adjusted the guides a little and wham!&nbsp; Nice coils.&nbsp; </p><p>Just wish you could get this without having to fiddle with the guides all the time.&nbsp; A little nudge and they go out of alignment so easily.&nbsp; I know that a vertical placement coils nicely, but I don&#039;t have the room or location to mount it easily.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-08T02:32:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sounds about right... There&#039;s nothing wrong with the filament, just a weird occurrence.&nbsp; Funny thing is, there was no discoloration on&nbsp; the filament that came out after the pellets started to re-feed.&nbsp; I would gather that the problem didn&#039;t last long before I caught it otherwise I&#039;d probably get some yellowing on the filament that was stuck in the barrel and nozzle.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cckens]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/129/</uri>
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			<updated>2014-02-07T18:15:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve never used the filabottle hopper, but I experimented with smaller hoppers and had pellet feed problems like you describe. You need about 1.5 sqin for them to feed well.</p><p>Figure 8 vs. circle seems to be a bit random and a bit of guide placement. Not an exact science.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
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			<updated>2014-02-07T18:11:00Z</updated>
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