<![CDATA[SoliForum - 3D Printing Community — E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> 2014-05-20T13:44:32Z PunBB https://www.soliforum.com/topic/5308/e3d-metal-hotend-needs-excessive-tempuratures-for-abs/ <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> I have the opposite issue. I installed E3D and ended up using the standard temp sensor from my stock SD2 hotend. Seems for example PLA needs to be extruded at 75 degrees which the hot end is clearly getting hotter then that if the PLA is extruding.

My e3D only had a small sensor hole but I was told to drill it bigger to fit the  stock temp sensor. I can't use the temp sensor that came with the E3D because the lil leg broke off and now I have drilled a bigger hole for my old stock one(that worked previously).

** still in process of updating firmware and doing that tonioght, but I don't know if it would help this problem. Also tried Auto tuning with no change

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/1758/ 2014-05-20T13:44:32Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/56635/#p56635 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> What are your speed settings form the extruder stepper? is the stepper skipping or the filament grinding at the drive gear?

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/296/ 2014-04-06T00:04:23Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/53581/#p53581 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> hey guys I'm having the same issue with my e3d hotend . i tried everything updated the firmware changed temp everything .i thought it was the bulldog extruder that was causing the issue .so i went back to the stock solidoodle extruder and and still the same issue the plastic slowly comes out . Also the thickness of the plastic coming out feels a little to small i feel like the Brass Nozzle hole might be off .i dont think its (0.4mm) it might be smaller ???i have no tool to measure such a small hole.  i need to email the guys from e3d . Has any one contacted the manufacture ?? Maybe its a bad batch of e3d kits ??

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2924/ 2014-04-05T23:50:37Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/53579/#p53579 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> elmoret wrote:

Type 6 (meh) and type 1 would be ok for the old EPCOS style. Not sure why adrian said Type 2, as E3D uses the 104GT-2 (I'm looking at a pack of 200 of them right now...)

Type 2 was a typo for type 1 in one place in that post tongue And yes, type 6 is more than 'meh'... tongue
So to restate to avoid any confusion, Type 1 should be used (type 6 should be entirely disregarded ) for any EPCOS NTC's with the usual beta values, and Type 5 for the new E3D's (anything V5 or later) with the Semitec thermistor.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/663/ 2014-02-09T00:59:19Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/49081/#p49081 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> satman49 wrote:

this  http://www.soliwiki.com/E3D_extruder says type 6, which is correct?

It would be wrong . I stated my facts from E3D... From the blog page explaining it over at e3d:
http://e3d-online.com/index.php?route=e … blog_id=19

EPCOS NTC

#define TEMP_SENSOR_(0,1,2) 1
Semitec

#define TEMP_SENSOR_(0,1,2) 5

Semitec is the new one... EPCOS was the old one...
And no one should be using Type6 - its stated right there in the source code, its an *inaccurate* Type1... You should only be using Type 1 for any EPCOS derivative... And Type 5 as I stated originally.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/663/ 2014-02-09T00:55:04Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/49080/#p49080 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> http://e3d-online.com/index.php?route=e … blog_id=19 says Type 5.

You could also read the configuration.h file:

// 1 is 100k thermistor - best choice for EPCOS 100k (4.7k pullup)
// 2 is 200k thermistor - ATC Semitec 204GT-2 (4.7k pullup)
// 3 is mendel-parts thermistor (4.7k pullup)
// 4 is 10k thermistor !! do not use it for a hotend. It gives bad resolution at high temp. !!
// 5 is 100K thermistor - ATC Semitec 104GT-2 (Used in ParCan) (4.7k pullup)
// 6 is 100k EPCOS - Not as accurate as table 1 (created using a fluke thermocouple) (4.7k pullup)

Type 6 (meh) and type 1 would be ok for the old EPCOS style. Not sure why adrian said Type 2, as E3D uses the 104GT-2 (I'm looking at a pack of 200 of them right now...)

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/ 2014-02-09T00:54:09Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/49079/#p49079 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> this  http://www.soliwiki.com/E3D_extruder says type 6, which is correct?

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/574/ 2014-02-09T00:48:58Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/49077/#p49077 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> Note - Latest thermistors from E3D now use Type 5 - if its a tiny thermistor and fits in the smallest hole, its type 5. If it only fits in the bigger hole then its type 2.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/663/ 2014-02-08T00:46:16Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/49001/#p49001 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> I think Adrian covered pretty much everything. At this point, if your thermistor setting in Marlin is correct, it might help to post a picture (clearly showing how thermistor is attached -- although that still might not reveal everything, eg partial short).

Btw, when all heaters are off and printer at room temp, does the hotend temperature read same as the bed temp?  If it's an air gap, it probably should. If it's a persistent partial short, it probably shouldn't.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/1993/ 2014-02-07T13:37:04Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/48955/#p48955 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> What did you set the thermistor to?

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/ 2014-02-07T07:09:43Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/48943/#p48943 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> Yes i did with the latest firmware from Lawsy

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/4747/ 2014-02-07T07:03:54Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/48941/#p48941 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> Did you update the firmware?

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/ 2014-02-07T06:18:02Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/48938/#p48938 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> Installed the thermistor from E3d and was getting crazy temperatures. I tried like 3 different thermistors and none of the temperatures they gave were accurate. It seems that the printrboard is really finiky with what type of NTC 100k ohm sensor it uses. What is the stock thermistor used on solidoodle 3?

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/4747/ 2014-02-07T05:21:33Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/48937/#p48937 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> Yup! In a bag with ferrules. Very small, easy to miss.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/ 2014-01-27T22:00:29Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/47898/#p47898 <![CDATA[Re: E3d metal hotend needs excessive tempuratures for ABS?]]> chevydan6 wrote:

OK ill purchase a few thermistor. Which ones work with the marlin firmware

You should have received a new one with your E3D.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/ 2014-01-27T17:58:18Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/47882/#p47882