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	<updated>2012-11-27T04:30:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I got my IR Thermometer today and decided to test it on the extruder nozzle.&nbsp; I consistently read about 20C higher than the stated temp on Repetier during both heating and cooling.&nbsp; At 160C requested temp, I am reading ~180C (from 179 to 181 fluctuating).<br />As the head cools down, I was reading about 20C higher than the reported temp at nearly every point.&nbsp; So, when I was printing at 200C I was actually heating my filament to about 220C.</p><p>When I get the thermocouple I will compare the two methods to see how reliable they are and how much they differ to the reading on repetier.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cephdon]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/339/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-27T04:30:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>IanJohnson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>IR thermometers aren&#039;t very good at reading nozzle temperatures.&nbsp; A K type thermocouple that you can plug into a multimeter will give a truer reading- <a href="http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/temperature/">http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/201 … mperature/</a></p></blockquote></div><p>when you use a thermo couple what temps are you getting?</p><p>I&#039;ve just rebuilt my hot end, and decided that I&#039;d measure the temperature. the machine reports hot end at 190, thermo couple suggests closer to 160. I also found that the extruder was skipping and binding.</p><p>turning the temperature up seemed to stop the skipping and binding, now I&#039;m printing with the machine thinking it&#039;s 210, but there are posts on here saying don&#039;t do that because the temp will actually be closer to 240 than 210 and the plastic will burn and clog!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[danny]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/39/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-26T10:10:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hmm. Ok. I will get one of those as well then.</p><p>EDIT: Took me several hours of work to clear my clog the other day (from black filament).. I used the blue filament sample that came with my printer and set it to a speed of 30 and extruded 1mm at a time at a temperature of 200.&nbsp; The black filament started to come out for a while and then it would jam.&nbsp; So I let it cool down and then heated it back up and started extruding again.</p><p>I did that until the filament was a pure blue color. Took many cycles, but it eventually cleared all black filament from the extruder (at least it seems so).&nbsp; Once clear, I was able to print successfully again (using the blue sample).</p><p>I don&#039;t know if this process will work for everyone.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cephdon]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/339/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-25T15:56:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>IR thermometers aren&#039;t very good at reading nozzle temperatures.&nbsp; A K type thermocouple that you can plug into a multimeter will give a truer reading- <a href="http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/temperature/">http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/201 … mperature/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-25T15:18:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have purchased, but not received yet, an IR thermometer.<br />This one:<br /><a href="http://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-TM-Infrared-Thermometer/dp/B006V4WNYU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1353854722&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=BAFX+ir+thermometer">http://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-TM- … hermometer</a></p><p>So, when I get it I will see what the temperature is really doing.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cephdon]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/339/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-25T14:47:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>sounds like maybe the temp sensor on the nozzle is not in the correct position so it is reading cooler than it should. Which would mean that your extruder is running to hot. But I dont have my printer yet, so it just a guess.&nbsp; Do you have a way to take the temp of the extruder with something else?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wire10ga]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/134/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-25T13:46:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I switched to the blue filament sample that came with my printer (looked to be about 4 or 5 feet in length) and started printing with that for a test.&nbsp; After 1 or 2 small objects (about 6 minutes print time each) the blue filament began to get jammed also.</p><p>When I pulled it out it looked almost burnt, as if the extruder were getting too hot.&nbsp; So I watched it again during another round of printing and found that during fill movements is when the jamming would start... like the flow rate was not correct and the material couldn&#039;t flow out of the extruder as fast as the extruder would try to push it in. During fill movements, the filament would get bent past the motor, but would relax as the pressure was taken off at the straightaways.&nbsp; </p><p>Also, I noticed that the blue filament seems to &quot;run&quot; when the heater reaches about 150C, but I was printing at 200C.&nbsp; At 150, I cant even make the extruder move due to protections.</p><p>Does that sound normal?&nbsp; Is my extruder running hot for some reason?</p><p>Pretenda, is that the experience you were having?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cephdon]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/339/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-24T16:15:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Just an update, I got the nozzle unclogged and put it back together one last time before I replace it with lawsys hot end, expecting the black to clog up pretty quick. I&#039;ve printed for over 18 hours with it since with not a single hiccup. I am still not 100% sure what the cause of my issues were but it seems to be all going ok for now. I&#039;m using a different colour now, so will keep the thread updated if I run into more issues. Thanks for everyone&#039;s help!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pretenda]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/231/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-24T12:50:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So, I just started having my black filament clog the extruder. Second time in about 30 minutes of filament use.&nbsp; When I pulled the filament out, I found what looked to be cellophane (like what you might think of as non-stick tape like material) on the end of the line (the end that just came out of the extruder).</p><p>Whatever it is, it didn&#039;t burn and isn&#039;t melted, but I don&#039;t know if there are more pieces in the extruder that didn&#039;t come out.</p><p>Just thought I would add my bit in here...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[cephdon]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/339/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-24T00:17:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>danny wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>the negative side of this is that the extruder is extraordinarily annoying to put back together, it&#039;s like a mental puzzle and balancing act all rolled into one!</p></blockquote></div><p>You may find this useful:</p><p><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/588/jigsaw-replacement-mk2/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/588/jigs … ement-mk2/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lawsy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/51/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-19T19:40:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>if you are watching the machine, then I&#039;ve found it is possible that you can catch a clog as soon as it happens, pause the print.</p><p>reverse the filament until it comes out, snip an inch off the end and then resume printing again.</p><p>Unfortunatly if you don&#039;t catch it as soon as it happens then it&#039;s a lot more difficult, certainly you can&#039;t pause/restart the print.<br />and you may find that you have to take the extruder apart and clear the clog manually.</p><p>I&#039;ve found that it&#039;s pretty effective to clear clogs by using a small alen wrench to remove the plastic, insert it into the cold end of the hot end part, then pull it out, it&#039;ll be coated in plastic.</p><p>if you use a 1.5mm alen wrench you can also use this to &quot;push&quot; the filament out of the hot end, you can apply much more pressure than the stepper motor can, literally forcing out clogs.</p><p>the negative side of this is that the extruder is extraordinarily annoying to put back together, it&#039;s like a mental puzzle and balancing act all rolled into one!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[danny]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/39/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-19T15:13:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Natural color ABS from Solidoodle.&nbsp; I did find some hard pieces of black something in the plastic when I first tried to clean it out.&nbsp; not sure if they were inclusions in the plastic, or if there was something from the manufacturing of the machine that found it&#039;s way into the nozzle.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[NEHoff]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/300/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-15T02:40:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>NEHoff, what colour was the filament you used and where did you get it from?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pretenda]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/231/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-15T01:59:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My extruder clogged up on the 4th print.&nbsp; So I tried the wire thing, and the torch thing and neither worked.&nbsp; However as a last ditch effort I removed the barrrel and nozzle from the PEEK insulator and soaked the two of them in a bottle with acetone.&nbsp; I shook the bottle up a few times during the day and blew them out with an air chuck.&nbsp; Reassembled perfectly and printed great.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[NEHoff]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/300/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-15T01:57:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Nozzle clogging]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Looks like ill have to put my order in first thing in the morning. Its money I don&#039;t want to spend, but I can&#039;t get the damn thing unclogged <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p><p>Thanks heaps for the info.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pretenda]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/231/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-11-14T12:29:40Z</updated>
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