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	<updated>2013-12-24T17:33:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Help! Suddenly getting rough prints]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Michael.&nbsp; Got to love community for solving problems.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mark.burhop]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1802/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-24T17:33:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Help! Suddenly getting rough prints]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Looking good mark!&nbsp; Glad we could help.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[michael.t.albers]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2252/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-23T19:21:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Help! Suddenly getting rough prints]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Update... I tool the nozzle off following the instructions here:</p><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/55042438">http://vimeo.com/55042438</a></p><p>I blasted it with a heat gun to get all the old PLA out and then scraped the inside with a wire and needle.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B5_RIGRVo0o9NFBUZTdXMGdZQk5lQzhkSVBhamktQzVkc3hB" alt="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B5_RIGRVo0o9NFBUZTdXMGdZQk5lQzhkSVBhamktQzVkc3hB" /></span></p><p>It made a HUGE difference.&nbsp; Above is the same print... check out the even lines in the fill compared to what was above.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mark.burhop]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1802/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-22T21:42:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Help! Suddenly getting rough prints]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It looks like one of those rare clogs you can recover from with some music wire. Certainly appears from video it&#039;s getting hot enough. Make sure filament drive isn&#039;t packed with dusty filament. Good luck Mark</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Briggs]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1282/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-22T21:00:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Help! Suddenly getting rough prints]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>looks like a partial clog to me.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[michael.t.albers]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-12-22T20:08:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Help! Suddenly getting rough prints]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>PLA out of my old MG stock hotend _often_ looked like that (shooting filament sideways, curling up), although not as bad.&nbsp; I also suspected a partial clog (but, then, it did fine with ABS).&nbsp; </p><p>Also, 180-215 is a bit too high for that hotend (I&#039;m doing 195 for MakerGeeks PLA with E3D, which is still on the high side -- and that should be around 165 with stock?).&nbsp; It may have been slowly accumulating crud, until this happened?&nbsp; Just a (wild) guess.</p><p>FWIW: I never succeeded with PLA with that hotend, I recently switched to an E3D and all my problems have disappeared.&nbsp; Problems started when I got a top clog in one of the first PLA runs with old hotend, at around 185-190.&nbsp; I managed to clear that by pulling remnants with tweezers from top, then pushing ABS through (which initially came out like in your video, but eventually settled).&nbsp; After that, ABS was always ok, but PLA never worked.&nbsp; Was always too lazy to dismount the old hotend until I swapped it out. I just gave up on PLA instead.&nbsp; One of these days, when I&#039;m done dialing everything in for the E3D, I may take the old hotend apart (since it&#039;s dismounted anyway) and investigate further.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[spapadim]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1993/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-22T19:41:56Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Help! Suddenly getting rough prints]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>After about 5 months with no problems I&#039;m getting very rough prints from my Solidoodle 2.&nbsp; I&#039;ve included some pictures and video below:</p><br /><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B5_RIGRVo0o9RTVDUkFEcWFmaUp5cWczMVFSS1NZbzhPOHpF" alt="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B5_RIGRVo0o9RTVDUkFEcWFmaUp5cWczMVFSS1NZbzhPOHpF" /></span><br />Notice I get kind of a gooey mess and not straight lines with a 50% fill.&nbsp; The extrusion seems to curl up a bit and get stuck to the nozzle just to get deposited later.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B5_RIGRVo0o9SUlDR01VVFpxREJPOUVnWGRSSS1oNkZob2pR" alt="https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B5_RIGRVo0o9SUlDR01VVFpxREJPOUVnWGRSSS1oNkZob2pR" /></span><br />Initially this looks like I don&#039;t have the bed set right but I&#039;ve checked it a few times.&nbsp; Also that doesn&#039;t explain the other problems.</p><p>VIdeo:</p><p><div class="fancy_video_tag_player"><iframe class="youtube-player" type="text/html" width="640" height="385" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kJJjBhVvI9c" frameborder="0"></iframe></div></p><p>I&#039;ve tried a number of things so <strong>I&#039;m looking for some other ideas on what might be wrong or how to debug this.</strong>&nbsp; Here is what I can say now.</p><p>1. It does not appear to be a problem with the PLA.&nbsp; I have several other rolls and swapping out doesn&#039;t make a difference.</p><p>2. Could it be due to a partial clog?&nbsp; I&#039;ve not heard anyone have this problem before.&nbsp; I&#039;ve unloaded and reloaded filament quite a few times and have done some large prints. I&#039;ve also used wire to try to dislodge anything.&nbsp; I have not taken the nozzle apart (yet).</p><p>3. My bed is level and sticking well (in case that image above fools you).&nbsp; In any case it would not explain the rough printing in all layers of the model.</p><p>4. I&#039;ve changed fill rates from everything from 20% to 100%.&nbsp; It didn&#039;t make any difference.</p><p>5. I&#039;ve tried temperatures from 180 to 215 with PLA.&nbsp; I&#039;ve not seen a big difference in roughness.</p><p>6. I&#039;ve experimented with Filament speed.&nbsp; The above prints were at 120 mm/min which has always worked but I&#039;ve gone from 100 to 150.</p><br /><p>I&#039;m starting to think it is a mechanical problem with the nozzle&nbsp; (maybe a partial clog?)&nbsp; which is why I did the video above.&nbsp; Does your filament look like this when it extrudes?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mark.burhop]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1802/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-22T19:10:45Z</updated>
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