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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed and Z Axis Travel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>AngersRevenge wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yea, it worked. Lowering the bed with the leveling screws allowed me to adjust the stop screw more. The thing is I can&#039;t recall reading anywhere that the bed might need to be adjusted. I&#039;ve always read that only the stop screw needed adjusting. </p><p>Thanks for you guys help.&nbsp; I don&#039;t see exactly how to mark this as resolved but consider it fixed. Hope this helps other newbs like me with their first printers.</p></blockquote></div><p>Glad to hear you figured it out.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-18T03:47:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed and Z Axis Travel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>opps sorry, I read your 1st post wrong, you have a sd2, that pic was for sd 3</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[satman49]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/574/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-18T00:43:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed and Z Axis Travel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yea, it worked. Lowering the bed with the leveling screws allowed me to adjust the stop screw more. The thing is I can&#039;t recall reading anywhere that the bed might need to be adjusted. I&#039;ve always read that only the stop screw needed adjusting. </p><p>Thanks for you guys help.&nbsp; I don&#039;t see exactly how to mark this as resolved but consider it fixed. Hope this helps other newbs like me with their first printers.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AngersRevenge]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4361/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-18T00:33:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed and Z Axis Travel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Look at the post from user satman-49 about 5 posts up <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Wow, I feel like a dumb a** for missing that. I even responded to him in a previous post but got totally lost when you mentioned him.</p><p>Anyhow, the settings was originally set to L_CARTESIAN_PRINTER (from the factory download settings, pic 1). I changed it to L_CARTESIAN_PRINTER_DUMP (pic 2). Still have the issue.</p><p>After additional trouble shooting, I now know it does it anytime it goes to the bottom after hitting the z stop switch. Once it has hit the bottom (and makes the grinding noise) it doesn&#039;t do it again until I raise the bed and let the screw press the z stop switch. If I press the z stop switch without letting it go completely to the top and hit the screw, it doesn&#039;t do it when the bed is lowered either manually or with park.</p><p>The thing is, I can&#039;t raise the stop screw anymore without hitting the glass bed and breaking it or the damaging the hotend. It&#039;s gotta be the z screw. I changed the park position to 140 and it didn&#039;t make any noise. </p><p>Now that I think of it, I could always lower the bed using the leveling screw which would give me more clearance for the hot end and z stop screw adjustment. Wish me luck, hoping it works.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AngersRevenge]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4361/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-18T00:17:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed and Z Axis Travel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Gotcha, I must have missed it. I run back and reread it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AngersRevenge]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4361/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-17T19:56:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed and Z Axis Travel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>AngersRevenge wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I apologize but I am unfamiliar with SATMAN-49.</p></blockquote></div><p>Look at the post from user satman-49 about 5 posts up <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /><br />If your bed and carriage is hitting something (like the bottom of the printer) because it is trying to go to far down than you have the Z height set too high.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-17T19:53:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I apologize but I am unfamiliar with SATMAN-49. You are correct in that SD2 is 150mm cubed. I do recall that the printer settings are 150mm (with X being 159) and the print area is all set to 150 in Slic3r. I will double check when I get a chance. Thanks for your advice. I might need to double check the Z offset again but that still doesn&#039;t explain why I am getting the excessive travel in the downward Z movement (150mm of Z axis). ). 0.3mm or even 3mm would be far less than how far it sounds like the Z is trying to move. It might not be a Z travel issue as I am thinking. I&#039;ll trouble shoot some more as soon as I can and see if it the noise isn&#039;t coming from somewhere else than I had originally thought.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AngersRevenge]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4361/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-17T19:46:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed and Z Axis Travel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>When you get in front of your PC take a look at what SATMAN-49 shows for print area height and if its at 200 try 150 and see if it stops correctly.&nbsp; &nbsp;I have an SD3 and you have an SD2 If I am not mistaken your X,Y &amp; Z should be 150 not 200 like the SD3<br />As far as the dial indicator goes that&#039;s is up to you but it is not necessary and just look at the skirt and make sure it is squished enough to stick.&nbsp; I have found that all the other methods will get you close but trail and error will dial it in just the way you want it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-17T19:23:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed and Z Axis Travel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Wardjr:</p><p>The Z limit switch works as intended. I have pressed the switch a couple times and it stop the Z movement as expected. The issue is when the bed is moving down not up. When moving up it hits the Z limit switch and stops. I can assume that the printer knows when to stop down Z travel by reading the bed height settings and moving that far from where it hits the Z stop. Which is why I thought changing the bed height might fix it.</p><p>The bed is level using the paper method. Plan on getting a dial indicator soon and using that. For the Z height, I read on google groups something to the effect of measuring the skirt from a print, comparing that to what is set for the first layer height, and adjusting as needed. </p><p>Satman-49:</p><p>I currently at work and don&#039;t have access to my comp. What I do remember is that X max is set to 159 and Y max is 150 (Solidoodle 2 has a 150x150 print area so X is 9 mm beyond the bed). Everything else is the same expect, I can&#039;t remember what is selected for Printer Type (I think it&#039;s labled as Solidoodle 2, from the manufacter&#039;s downloaded settings). also, I don&#039;t recall seeing an option for dump area though. I&#039;ve read Ian Johnson&#039;s arcticle that included dump areas and thought it was odd that my version of Repetier didn&#039;t have the option.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AngersRevenge]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4361/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-17T18:35:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed and Z Axis Travel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Are you printer setting in RH like this picture?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[satman49]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/574/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-17T18:07:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Bed and Z Axis Travel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>AngersRevenge wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have had my SD2 for about a week so am still new to a lot of info. </p><p>The issue: I have placed glass on the heat bed and readjusted the Z stop. After homing the Z axis, when using the park button (which is set to lower the bed all the way down), the bed makes a struggling sound as if it is still trying to continue down in the Z axis but can&#039;t because it is at the limit of the Z screw (I&#039;m thinking that&#039;s what it&#039;s called).</p><p>Extra Info: I am using Repetier Host and Slic3r. All testing has been done after homing the Z axis. I can not reproduce the issue when manually adjusting the bed height. The Z stop is set to have the extruder .3mm above the bed and compensated for the thickness of the glass. The X and Y axis are fine but the Z axis acts as if it is still trying to travel down when physically at it&#039;s max travel when using park. </p><p>Do I need to shrink the print bed height in the settings? If you guys need more info to help me diagnose the issue I&#039;ll be glad to provide as much as possible. Thanks in advance.</p></blockquote></div><p>While your z-axis is moving towards the hot end if you reach in and hit that switch does it stop the bed?<br />It sounds like your switch isn&#039;t working.&nbsp; </p><p>Also .3 is too much and I know there is a lot of info about how to calibrate the Z height.&nbsp; It is often better to just try and adjust and try again, adjust and try again.&nbsp; If you pick a simple print job and have it do a loop about 15mm before you can usually tell by how well that sticks if you have it were it needs to be.&nbsp; All of this is assuming the bed is also level to the hot end.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-17T18:07:28Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Glass Bed and Z Axis Travel]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have had my SD2 for about a week so am still new to a lot of info. </p><p>The issue: I have placed glass on the heat bed and readjusted the Z stop. After homing the Z axis, when using the park button (which is set to lower the bed all the way down), the bed makes a struggling sound as if it is still trying to continue down in the Z axis but can&#039;t because it is at the limit of the Z screw (I&#039;m thinking that&#039;s what it&#039;s called).</p><p>Extra Info: I am using Repetier Host and Slic3r. All testing has been done after homing the Z axis. I can not reproduce the issue when manually adjusting the bed height. The Z stop is set to have the extruder .3mm above the bed and compensated for the thickness of the glass. The X and Y axis are fine but the Z axis acts as if it is still trying to travel down when physically at it&#039;s max travel when using park. </p><p>Do I need to shrink the print bed height in the settings? If you guys need more info to help me diagnose the issue I&#039;ll be glad to provide as much as possible. Thanks in advance.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[AngersRevenge]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/4361/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-17T17:55:08Z</updated>
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