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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Plate --> Super glue --> painters tape -->platform]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It seems as though a lot of people have missed it.&nbsp; Every time I read a thread about glass clips or the like I try to toss it out there.&nbsp; It makes things so much easier.&nbsp; You may need to use a razor blade to gently pry (less pry and more slip in between) the glass from the bed the first time you have to remove it.&nbsp; After that it just pulls off by grabbing the print itself.&nbsp; Even if it doesn&#039;t seem like it isn&#039;t sticking that well (it will once it heats up) I have never had my glass move during a print.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-03T16:24:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Plate --> Super glue --> painters tape -->platform]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>wardjr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>(copied from glass bed hacks and mods)<br />I&#039;ve said it before and I will say it again.&nbsp; Leave the Kapton on the platform then spray the underside of your glass with the same hairspray you put on the top side.&nbsp; Put the glass on your platform and heat it up.&nbsp; No clips, perfectly level glass and it sticks well enough to not move and is still easy enough to remove.&nbsp; And no I don&#039;t have to respray every time I remove it.<br />I run my bed at 108 and everything seems happy.</p></blockquote></div><p>Not sure how I missed this but this is an awesome idea!&nbsp; Can&#039;t wait to try it out</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jason_]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2527/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-03T16:17:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Plate --> Super glue --> painters tape -->platform]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>(copied from glass bed hacks and mods)<br />I&#039;ve said it before and I will say it again.&nbsp; Leave the Kapton on the platform then spray the underside of your glass with the same hairspray you put on the top side.&nbsp; Put the glass on your platform and heat it up.&nbsp; No clips, perfectly level glass and it sticks well enough to not move and is still easy enough to remove.&nbsp; And no I don&#039;t have to respray every time I remove it.<br />I run my bed at 108 and everything seems happy.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[wardjr]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-12-03T16:14:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Plate --> Super glue --> painters tape -->platform]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I&#039;ll keep that in mind!&nbsp; </p><p>Perhaps I&#039;ll do some tests, but now I don&#039;t want to remove the glass if this is just dumb luck!</p><p>I will look into high heat glue for future use!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dpotthast]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3308/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-01T10:48:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Plate --> Super glue --> painters tape -->platform]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Its not the glass - its the chemistry of Cyanoacrylate. In standard form it has a service temp of -50°C to 80°C..&nbsp; That means, at temps above 80°C it is outside its bond specs.&nbsp; Ethyl-2 Cyanoacrylate is what you call &#039;super glue&#039;.... </p><p>Checking the MSDS for Duro, it is bog stock Ethyl-2&nbsp; Cyanoacrylate... <a href="http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&amp;id=13010011">http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/househol … d=13010011</a></p><p>There is newer formulas that include additional additives to boost that service temp to 125°C (usually) - but it is not what Duro is made of according to its MSDS... </p><p>So if its staying bonded at temps &gt;80°C - don&#039;t loose that tube of glue - its super super-glue <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>EDIT: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_cyanoacrylate">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethyl_cyanoacrylate</a> &lt;- lists the service temp as -54°C to 82°C.. so I wasn&#039;t far off <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Anyway - despite your personal success - this is why its not recommended by the vast majority of people - It works for a while, but it will fail - probably with more tangential forces yours would have most likely failed by now already too - A good solid knock to the glass when its warm for example....</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[adrian]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/663/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-01T10:28:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Plate --> Super glue --> painters tape -->platform]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hmm.. I have not had any issues heating bed to 100C&nbsp; .&nbsp; My superglue is nothing special, picked it up at Target...&nbsp; &quot;Duro&quot; brand...</p><p>edit*<br />my glass does have a slight texture on the base... perhaps that is the reason for better stick?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dpotthast]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3308/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-12-01T10:19:20Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Glass Plate --> Super glue --> painters tape -->platform]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dpotthast wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Simple way to attach glass bed <strong>without clips</strong>... hear me out...&nbsp; super glue!&nbsp; </p><p>1) lay down some painters tape on your bed in an x pattern, corners to corners<br />2) put <em>single</em> drops of super glue on the bottom of your glass, the four corners and the center<br />3) place your glass</p><p>if you have to take it off, peel the painters tape with it or, if you used little enough glue, the glass might just pop off the tape.</p><p>The main reason I did this was to keep my print area as large as possible without the chance of the extruder running over the clips, potentially damaging it, or getting caught.</p><p>I have been running strong with this method for over two months now, no ill effects...</p></blockquote></div><p>As per the other 2 threads you&#039;ve posted this into:</p><p>What temp you run the bed at, or what super glue specifically did you use ?<br />Unless its the specifically marked high temp stuff - then that is very unusual to last that long.. &#039;standard&#039; cyanoacrylate is only good to 80°C and will fail at that temp.... only the newer high-temp special stuff is rated higher..</p><p>But glad to hear its worked out ok so far! <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> - anyone else who has used superglue has had it fail after a period of time for the reasons I just outlined.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[adrian]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-12-01T09:46:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Glass Plate --> Super glue --> painters tape -->platform]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>(also posted in glass bed hacks and mods)</p><p>Simple way to attach glass bed <strong>without clips</strong>... hear me out...&nbsp; super glue!&nbsp; </p><p>1) lay down some painters tape on your bed in an x pattern, corners to corners<br />2) put <em>single</em> drops of super glue on the bottom of your glass, the four corners and the center<br />3) place your glass</p><p>if you have to take it off, peel the painters tape with it or, if you used little enough glue, the glass might just pop off the tape.</p><p>The main reason I did this was to keep my print area as large as possible without the chance of the extruder running over the clips, potentially damaging it, or getting caught.</p><p>I have been running strong with this method for over two months now, no ill effects...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[dpotthast]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-12-01T09:28:15Z</updated>
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