<![CDATA[SoliForum - 3D Printing Community — Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> 2013-12-01T07:04:22Z PunBB https://www.soliforum.com/topic/4704/solidoodle-2-putting-holes-in-prints-infill-is-broken-sigh/ <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> In the links I posted earlier ---> http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/201 … libration/ you will find the method to change the eeprom values without using the menus... just by using gcodes M92 for setting the numbers and M500 for writing the eeprom... going from memory here so the numbers may be a bit different... anyways I had posts on how to do this a while back also and I think on the wiki or soliwiki it also shows how to do this verbatim... I have to get up in 5 hours so I'm signing off now if you can not get this to work I'll do some searching tomorrow and find the links for ya'

-Ron

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/296/ 2013-12-01T07:04:22Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42958/#p42958 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> Well then!

....I hope someone else knows how to fix that because I've never seen that!

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After some looking around it seems that has to do with it being a mac version?  Apparently you can use M commands to adjust the stuff manually but that is far beyond my area of knowledge.

If you have a windows computer you could put repetier on it for a moment just to configure the steps/mm?

The settings I gave you work perfectly on my and a friend's SD2, so once your extruder is not putting out ~250% filament, it should be good! smile

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2694/ 2013-12-01T06:52:36Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42956/#p42956 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> When I bring up the EEPROM settings window, this is all that comes up.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2717/ 2013-12-01T03:43:56Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42943/#p42943 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> That setting is in the controller board eprom, not slic3r. You can connect with Repetier Host and bring up the eprom settings from the Config menu.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/270/ 2013-12-01T03:23:07Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42941/#p42941 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> Well, I think i found the problem!

I ran the test on the extrusion calibration like ian johnson did in his video with the sharpie, and get this-

When i extruded 100mm in repetier, it extruded not 150, not 175, not 200, but 257mm, a whole 157mm over the amount instead!!

I am really shocked my extruder is that screwed up on the calibration. So now that I figured that out, where do I go in slic3r to change the setting and set it back? How do I determine what number to put as well since its extruding way over 100% more?

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2717/ 2013-12-01T03:11:43Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42939/#p42939 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> That is really weird, as my settings are roughly based on factory!

I'd calibrate your extruder and try again..  If you want to do a quick test, assuming extruders are similar, change config / firmware eeprom, steps per mm on E to 110.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2694/ 2013-12-01T00:02:23Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42931/#p42931 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> He made that vid a while back but everything pretty much still applies to current SD's, he was using pronterface but all the gcode and repetier stuff is basically the same.
once you figure out how much the extruder stepper is off use this next link to correct it.

http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/201 … libration/

http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/201 … flow-rate/

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/296/ 2013-11-30T22:04:37Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42925/#p42925 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> ronsii wrote:

That's a huge amount of overextrusion, I think your best bet is to get back to factory settings and work from there... the factory settings are actually not as bad as most people would have you believe... well except for the 30 percent over-extrusion amount anyway... but that is easily corrected as shown in the video link by Ian in my earlier post. The way you have the settings now makes slic3r not do what it is supposed to do, I'm kinda surprised it printed as good as it did in your first pic.

The only thing is, in that video Ian shows, thats using different software than repetier to change the printer settings if i'm not mistaken. I'm not exactly sure how i'd go about changing it in repetier/slicer once i figure out how much it's overextruding.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2717/ 2013-11-30T21:38:56Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42923/#p42923 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> That's a huge amount of overextrusion, I think your best bet is to get back to factory settings and work from there... the factory settings are actually not as bad as most people would have you believe... well except for the 30 percent over-extrusion amount anyway... but that is easily corrected as shown in the video link by Ian in my earlier post. The way you have the settings now makes slic3r not do what it is supposed to do, I'm kinda surprised it printed as good as it did in your first pic.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/296/ 2013-11-30T21:30:36Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42922/#p42922 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> ITman496 wrote:

well I guess other things are off, because right there changing that setting will make you extrude more then twice as much filament. (I think)

When you changed it, did you select the new filament settings before you sliced? I've confused myself many times when I change a setting, slice, and realize that repetier was still on an old profile.

If you want some settings that work, try these:  (keep in mind I'm only listing what values to change, everything I dont mention just leave as you have it the same as me)

on the printer settings / Extruder 1:

Nozzle diameter:  .4

Length:  2.5mm
Speed: 150


on print settings / advanced  (this is what I suspect is wrong)

change ALL of them to .42 except Support, which I have at .31     so the first six make .42 and the last one .31.


on infill: 

fill density:  0.3
fill pattern: honeycomb

solid infill every 0 layers

uncheck retract when crossing perimeters.


on layers and perimeters:

layer height (Whatever you want, though for most parts I use 0.3 unless I'm going for looks)

first later also 0.3000

perimeters 3.  (not 75 that's really really wrong!!)

I randomize starting points.

I usually only have 4 solid layers on the top and 3 on the bottom. Its enough and saves some time/material.




Anyway, with all of that you should see a massive improvement because yeah, your settings are /way/ off.  And be sure to check the filament settings and make sure they are right.  Also, if I remember, the trend for solidoodles is an overcalibrated extruder. (IE it seems to extrude too much, as in 130mm when it should be 100.  At least thats what mine and a few I've seen did.  Look up how to calibrate it, it helps.)

Let us know how these fixes help!  Also please post a screenshot of your filament settings.

Finally one last note.  Whenever I change certain things to Zero in slic3r it seems to snap back.  So read your settings after you save and make sure they held. If they do not hold, change it to 1 before changing to zero and vice versa, seems to fix for me, once again, has confused me many many times.

Good luck!

Well, I tried all of your settings, and attached are the results. A big fat blob of melted ABS goop that happens to resemble the adapter I made. The last attachment has that print next to the one with the settings before.

Is this print, with these settings, a telltale sign of any problems then?

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2717/ 2013-11-30T21:08:53Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42921/#p42921 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> well I guess other things are off, because right there changing that setting will make you extrude more then twice as much filament. (I think)

When you changed it, did you select the new filament settings before you sliced? I've confused myself many times when I change a setting, slice, and realize that repetier was still on an old profile.

If you want some settings that work, try these:  (keep in mind I'm only listing what values to change, everything I dont mention just leave as you have it the same as me)

on the printer settings / Extruder 1:

Nozzle diameter:  .4

Length:  2.5mm
Speed: 150


on print settings / advanced  (this is what I suspect is wrong)

change ALL of them to .42 except Support, which I have at .31     so the first six make .42 and the last one .31.


on infill: 

fill density:  0.3
fill pattern: honeycomb

solid infill every 0 layers

uncheck retract when crossing perimeters.


on layers and perimeters:

layer height (Whatever you want, though for most parts I use 0.3 unless I'm going for looks)

first later also 0.3000

perimeters 3.  (not 75 that's really really wrong!!)

I randomize starting points.

I usually only have 4 solid layers on the top and 3 on the bottom. Its enough and saves some time/material.




Anyway, with all of that you should see a massive improvement because yeah, your settings are /way/ off.  And be sure to check the filament settings and make sure they are right.  Also, if I remember, the trend for solidoodles is an overcalibrated extruder. (IE it seems to extrude too much, as in 130mm when it should be 100.  At least thats what mine and a few I've seen did.  Look up how to calibrate it, it helps.)

Let us know how these fixes help!  Also please post a screenshot of your filament settings.

Finally one last note.  Whenever I change certain things to Zero in slic3r it seems to snap back.  So read your settings after you save and make sure they held. If they do not hold, change it to 1 before changing to zero and vice versa, seems to fix for me, once again, has confused me many many times.

Good luck!

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2694/ 2013-11-30T14:36:05Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42909/#p42909 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> Here are some links that should be helpful to you:

http://www.soliwiki.com/Main_Page#Calibrations

http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/201 … tier-host/

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/296/ 2013-11-30T14:32:00Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42908/#p42908 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> There poeple on here that would know more than me, but those settings look way off.  Your minimum parameters is set to 75?  There are also settings that if not set correctly will cause slicer to fail to slice. Usually during the infill calculations. It took me a awhile to figure out some of the basics and there are some things I still don't understand. But again, those settings look way off.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2628/ 2013-11-30T12:44:19Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42906/#p42906 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> I don't think I have calibrated it before.... is there a tutorial for this somewhere?

Oh wow, it is set to 3mm. Although a quick change to that in slicer doesnt immediately give any different results in the g-code....

My extrusion multiplier is set to 1.

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2717/ 2013-11-30T09:07:34Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42901/#p42901 <![CDATA[Re: Solidoodle 2 putting holes in prints, infill is broken. Sigh.]]> I think you're not putting out enough filament then.  Have you calibrated your extruder?  And also, a problem I had in the past, is it accidentally set to 3mm filament instead of 1.75?  Finally, what is your extrusion multiplier set to?

]]> https://www.soliforum.com/user/2694/ 2013-11-30T06:41:09Z https://www.soliforum.com/post/42896/#p42896