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	<title type="html"><![CDATA[SoliForum - 3D Printing Community — Bed heater problems]]></title>
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	<updated>2013-11-16T03:42:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater problems]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#039;t had a qu-bd bed fail, but I haven&#039;t used one either.</p><p>This stuff is largely out of China, with questionable QC. That&#039;s why I sourced the heaters for the Filastruder out of North America. I&#039;ve just heard of the first failure today, out of 900 units shipped. It is on its way to me to be dissected. <img src="https://www.soliforum.com/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-16T03:42:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater problems]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone else experienced this problem?&nbsp; The Qu-Bd&nbsp; heater pad is only 2 months old, what do you think it would cause it to go bad in this short a time?</p><p>Anyway, today I ordered a replacement from Qu-Bd, and while I was in a buying mood, I also bought the solid copper plate that I&#039;ve been meaning to use as a replacement for my aluminum build platform, and I also ordered the new Aluminum bed frame from Solidoodle.</p><p>So now I wait....</p><p>...but the short life span of the qu-bd heater still bugs me.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pirvan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1357/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-16T03:30:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater problems]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pirvan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I can&#039;t see anything.&nbsp; The heaterpad is under the insulation cloth, and everything is wrapped in Kapton.</p><p>What should the resistance of the pad be?&nbsp; It currently reads 4.8 ohms.</p></blockquote></div><p>P=V^2/R</p><p>144/4.8=30</p><p>That ain&#039;t gonna cut the mustard. Time for a new bed!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-15T04:26:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater problems]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I can&#039;t see anything.&nbsp; The heaterpad is under the insulation cloth, and everything is wrapped in Kapton.</p><p>What should the resistance of the pad be?&nbsp; It currently reads 4.8 ohms.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pirvan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1357/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-15T04:13:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater problems]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>See any burn marks on the pad? What&#039;s the resistance of the bed now?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[2n2r5]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1906/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-14T15:16:42Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/41635/#p41635</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater problems]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just connected the heatpad directly to a 12V supply, and here is the result.&nbsp; To me, this looks like the heatpad&#039;s gone bad.</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;item=3950" alt="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;amp;item=3950" /></span></p><p>What do you think?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pirvan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1357/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-14T15:13:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater problems]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Your heater mosfet is going bad... try cooling it more by moving the fan closer or hitting it with a freezer can...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[adrian]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/663/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-14T08:16:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater problems]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>No I haven&#039;t.&nbsp; How do you do that?</p><p>FYI, on my setup, I&#039;m still using the original thermistor, rather than the thermistor that came with the QU-BD.&nbsp; I found that it&#039;s actually pretty accurate.&nbsp; The thermistor readings are usually only 6-8°C higher than the actual measured temps.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pirvan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1357/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-14T05:33:14Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/41617/#p41617</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Bed heater problems]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>have you tried enabling Bed PID and then autotuning ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[2n2r5]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1906/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-14T04:15:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Bed heater problems]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Once again, I&#039;m having print bed heater problems.</p><p>Last time I had a problem with the heater not going above 50°C.&nbsp; At that time, I did a quick test by plugging the printbed into the hot end port and the bed heated fine, so I replaced the MOSFET driver, but it didn&#039;t make any difference.</p><p>So I decided to upgrade.&nbsp; I installed a QU-BD heater pad, and upgraded to a 750W power supply to drive it all.&nbsp; Everything worked OK, until a couple of days ago.</p><p>Prior to this past Monday, the QU-BD bed would heat up to 100°C in about 3.5-4 minutes.&nbsp; Now it quickly heats up to 60°+ (sometimes higher), then it drops off below 50°, and then slowly creeps upwards, but tops out around 60-65°.</p><p>I know it&#039;s not the heater pad itself, because I once again plugged it into the hot end port, and it vent straight to 100°C in a little over 3 minutes.&nbsp; After I plugged it back in its own port, the bed heated up to it&#039;s normal 100°C and stayed there, so I thought the &quot;glitch&quot; was gone, but last night it stared doing it again.&nbsp; Now I get the temp curve you see below, and the temps eventually build up to about 63°C and stay there.</p><p>So do you guys think the problem could be?</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;item=3947" alt="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;amp;item=3947" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pirvan]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1357/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-11-14T04:11:00Z</updated>
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