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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Hario-Ceramic-Coffee-Mill-Skerton/dp/B001802PIQ/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1384120937&amp;sr=8-3&amp;keywords=burr+grinder">http://www.amazon.com/Hario-Ceramic-Cof … rr+grinder</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-11-10T22:02:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ah - yeah, I used a manual one,</p></blockquote></div><p>Yea.. which one?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-10T22:01:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ah - yeah, I used a manual one, so I could feel the resistance and not burn out a motor or break it. I was only doing a teaspoon of masterbatch so it wasn&#039;t bad.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-10T16:34:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I just grabbed a $25 one off Amazon.</p></blockquote></div><p>well I already killed the burr grinder I got off of amazon.. I probably ran it too much in too short of an amount of time. It was the Cuisinart DBM-8 Supreme Grind Automatic Burr Mill. It did do a decent job of grinding the filament but I guess you can only run it for short bursts.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-10T16:04:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you&#039;re using a melt filter nozzle, you&#039;ll want to either remove the filter, or be very careful about how deep you drill.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah I was planning on removing it from the extruder first so it&#039;d be easier to drill. But drilling it out in place is tempting because it&#039;s not fun getting the nozzle off after it&#039;s been used. lol</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-05T18:18:24Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hand drill is fine. They&#039;re 1/16&quot; (1.58mm) holes, so you could jump to 5/64&quot; (1.98mm), which might be okay if you bump the temperature back up to ~195C. Or you could get a metric 1.70mm bit. Or a #50 bit (1.778mm):</p><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Cobalt-Jobber-Length-Drill-Bit/dp/B0006GXDDY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1383662560&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=%2350+drill+bit">http://www.amazon.com/Cobalt-Jobber-Len … +drill+bit</a></p><p>If you&#039;re using a melt filter nozzle, you&#039;ll want to either remove the filter, or be very careful about how deep you drill. </p><p>When I started out, I was worried about oversize filament - MFI and temperature can both impact diameter. However, most users report 1.6-1.75mm, so I will probably bump it up a size in the future.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-05T14:26:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Are you using MG94?</p><p>Sounds like the solution is to drill the nozzle one size larger.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Yes, what size should I be aiming for? Do I need a drill press for this?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-05T13:58:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Are you using MG94?</p><p>Sounds like the solution is to drill the nozzle one size larger.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-05T12:32:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Every 10C is a ~0.1mm reduction in diameter. 180C should bring you to 1.65 or so. I drill the nozzles aiming for 1.70mm filament - better to be undersized slightly than over.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Well I&#039;ve been lowering the temp in steps and I&#039;m down to 160 and it&#039;s still only 1.60 and it&#039;s extruding really slow</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-05T06:10:52Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just grabbed a $25 one off Amazon.</p><p>Check out this thread before trying powders:</p><p><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2123/colorants-masterbatch/page/5/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2123/col … ch/page/5/</a></p><p>(post 120+)</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-04T22:17:55Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Higher temp probably would help mix, but it would also show the diameter reduction you see.</p><p>The trouble with streaking comes from masterbatch pellet size relative to extruder size. If you can run the pellets through a burr grinder or something, they&#039;ll mix better.</p></blockquote></div><p>Are there any specific models of burr grinders that are known to be up to the task? These are usually used for coffee right?</p><p>I&#039;m also going to try using powered pigment and cut out a step?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-04T22:12:43Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Higher temp probably would help mix, but it would also show the diameter reduction you see.</p><p>The trouble with streaking comes from masterbatch pellet size relative to extruder size. If you can run the pellets through a burr grinder or something, they&#039;ll mix better.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-04T21:59:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>200 is way too hot, that&#039;s why you&#039;re seeing that diameter. You need 175-185C, as listed in the manual (step 2, operation instructions). The alternative is to drill the nozzle bigger.</p><p>Every 10C is a ~0.1mm reduction in diameter. 180C should bring you to 1.65 or so. I drill the nozzles aiming for 1.70mm filament - better to be undersized slightly than over.</p></blockquote></div><p>Okay.. I recall being confused about that but I can&#039;t get the manual at the moment. (dropbox is blocked where I work)</p><p>The first batch of color I tried to make came out really streaky so I changed the ratio and had somehow decided that a higher temp would help mix the pigment.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-04T21:31:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>200 is way too hot, that&#039;s why you&#039;re seeing that diameter. You need 175-185C, as listed in the manual (step 2, operation instructions). The alternative is to drill the nozzle bigger.</p><p>Every 10C is a ~0.1mm reduction in diameter. 180C should bring you to 1.65 or so. I drill the nozzles aiming for 1.70mm filament - better to be undersized slightly than over.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-04T20:35:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m fine tuning my setup and the batch I did last night seems to have come out fairly consistently at 1.4mm .. I&#039;m using the OS&nbsp; MG94&nbsp; pellets and the red masterbatch at a ratio of 10/1. The extruder temp was set to 200. I also installed the the nozzle with the debris mesh in it. Should I go up in temp? </p><p>I suppose it might not be getting cooled fast enough?</p><p>I was able to print with the 1.4mm diameter filament and it looks great. But I&#039;d of course rather get closer to the spec of my printer.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2013-11-04T19:13:54Z</updated>
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