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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Intermittent blobs on first layer with PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I did the PID autotune,&nbsp; I changed the retraction, and I have played with the extrusion factors and that helped but only too an extent.&nbsp; I will report back with the effects of the new changes in a while</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FordGalaxie]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2840/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-02T16:05:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Intermittent blobs on first layer with PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Actaully, this loooks more like a problem with the Extrusion factor in Slicer. He does not have the problem with ABS, so I am guessing he has not calibrated for the the different filament. Print a single walled cube and measure the wall thickness for PLA.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hazer]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2747/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-02T12:52:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Intermittent blobs on first layer with PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That link I posted before shows you an example of the moire effect caused by the stock 1/16 stepper drivers.&nbsp; If you have a newer SD then the steppers are not swappable, but you can still adjust the stepper voltage to minimize the impact.&nbsp; Wikipedia has more on the Moire Pattern (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_pattern</a>).</p><p>See this link on adjusting the stepper motors:<br /><a href="http://www.solidoodle.com/how-to-2/troubleshooting/#steppers">http://www.solidoodle.com/how-to-2/trou … /#steppers</a></p><p>For me, I adjusted the extruder stepper, VERY CAREFULLY, while it was printing; until the prints looked better.&nbsp; If you&#039;re not comfortable making the adjustments while printing, I would turn the trimpot an eighth of a turn to the left to see if that helps. </p><p>As for the temperate, 165C doesn&#039;t sound like it&#039;s too far off, but from the pics I would take it down in 5C increments to if that helps as well.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[3d-oodler]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/815/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-02T05:00:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Intermittent blobs on first layer with PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>pla is inherently more &#039;oozy&#039; than ABS.. meaning you will need a higher retraction setting under slic3r-&gt;printer settings-&gt;extruder 1 ....</p><p>And PLA can vary in temp range from 155-&gt;185 (for natural) on the SD... so your temps sound ok - i&#039;d tweak the retraction settings more first...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[adrian]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/663/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-02T03:12:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Intermittent blobs on first layer with PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Right now im printing at about 165 C.&nbsp; What, may I ask, is the moire effect?<br />Also, those stepper drivers are for a new brand of stepper.&nbsp; Would a driver for the STOCK steppers have an effect as such?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FordGalaxie]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2840/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-02T00:41:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Intermittent blobs on first layer with PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that you&#039;re printing too hot, and that the moire effect is actually there with ABS too, but it&#039;s more pronounced with the hotter PLA.&nbsp; What temp are you printing at?&nbsp; You might try 20C colder.</p><p>You can reduce the moire by adjusting the VREF on your extruder stepper driver, and reduce it further by installing a microstepping driver, see <a href="http://www.soliforum.com/post/33357/#p33357">http://www.soliforum.com/post/33357/#p33357</a></p><p>But for now, lowering the temp should help.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[3d-oodler]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/815/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-02T00:24:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Intermittent blobs on first layer with PLA]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I recently switched to PLA and I have been having this issue on the first layer<br />What is causing this? Thanks in advance!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[FordGalaxie]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2840/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-11-02T00:00:51Z</updated>
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