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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: blobby rough surface]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>diyengineer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My z height was off from the factory also. tisk tisk!</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>You mean the z zero height or the actual steps per mm? as mine have all been spot on.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ronsii]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/296/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-30T05:06:59Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Your Z steps/mm should be 2267.7183</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[2n2r5]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1906/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-29T21:53:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: blobby rough surface]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I first began printing, I had to calibrate the x,y and z steps.&nbsp; With PLA I got within .05 mm on all of them.&nbsp; Now with ABS seems like there will have to be a different calibration for the Z axis at least.</p><p>Or maybe some big goof hit a wrong button.</p><p>You pick.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[gwfami]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1175/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-29T21:49:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: blobby rough surface]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>diyengineer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My z height was off from the factory also. tisk tisk!</p></blockquote></div><p>No calibration on this machine can survive a bouncy trip on UPS trucks for vast distances. It should come with a note saying that :-).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Claghorn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/270/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-29T21:19:58Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My z height was off from the factory also. tisk tisk!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[diyengineer]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3724/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-29T20:28:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: blobby rough surface]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The Z steps should be fine, that is based on the thread pitch and doesn&#039;t vary.&nbsp; Your height could be short from the first layer being squished, and the height being rounded down because the overall height doesn&#039;t divide evenly by the layer height.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-29T16:42:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: blobby rough surface]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Managed to print out a 50 mm high tower with no blobs.&nbsp; Tower was about 1 mm off in height, so I guess I need to recalibrate the Z stepper value too.</p><p>Tried to print out some coins for testing purposes, but they were a little blobby yet, not quite sure why.</p><p>What is the optimum temp for printing ABS?&nbsp; I&#039;ve tried 285-205 with bed at 100.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[gwfami]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1175/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-29T14:15:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Recalibrated the feed, was off by quite a bit.&nbsp; Trying a print now.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[gwfami]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1175/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-29T00:00:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Recalibrated the feed, was off by quite a bit.&nbsp; Trying a print now.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[gwfami]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1175/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-29T00:00:03Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Won&#039;t be able to recalibrate until after work tonight.&nbsp; Will report back then.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Tomek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>ok, well apologizes for getting in the details on this topic.</p><p>Ok, I understand some of what is going on on that page. He&#039;s not talking about the volume change at the pinching of the filament with the hobbed gear, but rather in the actual part you produce. I guess this also makes the most difference in parts with a large surface area to the volume ratio. Interestingly it means my method of relying on a 0.42 or 0.5mm one-wall object for calibration can be a little flawed.</p><p>But to un-derail,</p><p>gwfami, where are you right now? Has calibrating helped?</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[gwfami]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1175/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-28T18:04:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve got a filastruder already that I am in the process of tuning for PP, just need enough good ABS filament to make the vertical resin holder.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>2n2r5 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>gwfami wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If I have a bad batch of filament, which may well be the case, where company provides the best consistent filament?&nbsp; I&#039;ve been looking at the filament reviews and they are all over the place.</p></blockquote></div><p>The bad filament I have seen basically won&#039;t adhere to itself causing the layers to flake apart. </p><p>There are so many good suppliers out there. I have used Maker Geeks and Octave with good success. The best way to ensure quality is to make it yourself. Check out <a href="http://Filastruder.com">http://Filastruder.com</a> and <a href="http://osprintingllc.com/">http://osprintingllc.com/</a> . It will also save you a bundle of cash if you plan on printing a lot.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[gwfami]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1175/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-28T18:01:10Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>ok, well apologizes for getting in the details on this topic.</p><p>Ok, I understand some of what is going on on that page. He&#039;s not talking about the volume change at the pinching of the filament with the hobbed gear, but rather in the actual part you produce. I guess this also makes the most difference in parts with a large surface area to the volume ratio. Interestingly it means my method of relying on a 0.42 or 0.5mm one-wall object for calibration can be a little flawed.</p><p>But to un-derail,</p><p>gwfami, where are you right now? Has calibrating helped?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Tomek]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/192/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-28T17:57:50Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Tomek wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>IanJohnson wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>PLA and ABS will need different extrusion multipliers.&nbsp; Extrusion Multiplier is a fudge factor to adjust for how much the gear teeth compress the filament as it feeds.&nbsp; PLA is harder than ABS and usually takes a higher multiplier.</p></blockquote></div><p>Eh? Are you suggesting that the effective radius of the &quot;hobbed bolt&quot; is changed depending on how deep the geared tooth digs in? I feel it highly unlikely, the difference between the min diameter and tooth max diameter is a low percentage of the total diameter....Isn&#039;t the extrusion multiplier just a fudgefactor for the measurement of the filament and your Extruder steps calibration?</p><p>It&#039;s different between all filaments for me, partly out of difficulty measuring the radius of the filament.</p></blockquote></div><p>Here is an explanation - <a href="http://hydraraptor.blogspot.nl/2011/03/spot-on-flow-rate.html">http://hydraraptor.blogspot.nl/2011/03/ … -rate.html</a></p><p>It&#039;s the effective difference in gear radius, and also the change in volume of the filament from the teeth marks.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[IanJohnson]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/14/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-28T17:44:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>gwfami wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If I have a bad batch of filament, which may well be the case, where company provides the best consistent filament?&nbsp; I&#039;ve been looking at the filament reviews and they are all over the place.</p></blockquote></div><p>The bad filament I have seen basically won&#039;t adhere to itself causing the layers to flake apart. </p><p>There are so many good suppliers out there. I have used Maker Geeks and Octave with good success. The best way to ensure quality is to make it yourself. Check out <a href="http://Filastruder.com">http://Filastruder.com</a> and <a href="http://osprintingllc.com/">http://osprintingllc.com/</a> . It will also save you a bundle of cash if you plan on printing a lot.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[2n2r5]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1906/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-28T17:27:37Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If I have a bad batch of filament, which may well be the case, where company provides the best consistent filament?&nbsp; I&#039;ve been looking at the filament reviews and they are all over the place.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[gwfami]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1175/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-28T17:22:02Z</updated>
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