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	<updated>2013-10-13T23:18:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The motor shaft/socket interface is designed to be a clearance fit to allow for misalignment of the feed screw (auger) and motor shaft. The instructions say:</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>13.)&nbsp; &nbsp; Place the 3/32” dowel pin on the center of the motor flat. This forms the key for the motor/auger coupling. Wrap 2-3 times with tape to hold in place.<br />14.)&nbsp; &nbsp; Slide the hex socket onto the motor shaft.</p></blockquote></div><p>The purpose of the tape is not only to hold the pin in place, but to fill that clearance fit in a compliant fashion. A few wraps of tape result in a snug fit, like so:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/je5B79w.jpg" alt="http://i.imgur.com/je5B79w.jpg" /></span></p><p>I actually had to lightly tap the socket on for it to bottom out, and it is so snug from the 2-3 wraps of tape that there is no play/looseness by hand (there is still tolerance for a couple degrees of misalignment, but you can&#039;t feel this by hand). That is proper installation.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-13T23:18:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>No, I just put a little piece on there to keep it from moving while I put the dowel in place. Didn&#039;t realize it was SUPPOSED to be wrapped. Thought it was just to keep it from moving while it was put in place.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jdb1930]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3378/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-13T22:37:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sure, free to everyone. Did you use a couple wraps of tape to secure the pin to the motor shaft? This is important, as the dimensional clearance is designed to have 100 microns or so of tape thickness.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-13T22:26:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>After running for 5 hours, the motor got in a bind, I&#039;m guessing from particles blocking the nozzle, and crushed the dowel pin. How do I go about getting another one? Are they available to those without washers as well?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jdb1930]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3378/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-13T22:16:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>laird wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You shouldn&#039;t keep crushing them - its not meant to be a wear part! I have run 500 hours on a washer before. Make sure it is at least 1.3mm thick. </p><p>If it holds for a few hours, it should be good for hundreds.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, sorry, I&#039;m just cranky. I&#039;m sure that once I get it working again, I&#039;ll be my usual optimistic self. :-)</p></blockquote></div><p>No you&#039;re fine - its my fault, and it should work the first time out of the box. I think that the tape wrap will solve it, as this takes up about 400 microns of clearance. Let me know how it goes.</p></blockquote></div><p>Posted in another thread, but to close the loop here...</p><p>I got it working by going back to the original motor and using two #6 washers, hammered into place (with a screwdriver holding them in place during the hammering). I couldn&#039;t hold two stacked up with tape as the collar pushed the tape (and thus the washers) down. One washer did nothing other than turn &#039;round&#039;.</p><p>I&#039;m having no luck with the new motor. I will try to grind down the axle to get more &#039;flat&#039; to transmit torque with, and jam in washers.</p><p>Now that I have filament extruding, well, at least I know that it can extrude, and the nozzle is clear, etc.. So feeling much better about the world of Filastruding.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[laird]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3192/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-02T05:22:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Mine orginally Ran for about 10 hours and then shredded. Replaced it with a washer I had laying around and iit lasted about 30 mins. I went to Local Hardware and picked up a pack of flat washers and cut one down. Its been going strong since.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Nimikin]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/1533/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-02T01:37:15Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/37852/#p37852</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>laird wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You shouldn&#039;t keep crushing them - its not meant to be a wear part! I have run 500 hours on a washer before. Make sure it is at least 1.3mm thick. </p><p>If it holds for a few hours, it should be good for hundreds.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, sorry, I&#039;m just cranky. I&#039;m sure that once I get it working again, I&#039;ll be my usual optimistic self. :-)</p></blockquote></div><p>No you&#039;re fine - its my fault, and it should work the first time out of the box. I think that the tape wrap will solve it, as this takes up about 400 microns of clearance. Let me know how it goes.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-01T22:24:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You shouldn&#039;t keep crushing them - its not meant to be a wear part! I have run 500 hours on a washer before. Make sure it is at least 1.3mm thick. </p><p>If it holds for a few hours, it should be good for hundreds.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, sorry, I&#039;m just cranky. I&#039;m sure that once I get it working again, I&#039;ll be my usual optimistic self. :-)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[laird]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3192/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-01T20:49:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You shouldn&#039;t keep crushing them - its not meant to be a wear part! I have run 500 hours on a washer before. Make sure it is at least 1.3mm thick. </p><p>If it holds for a few hours, it should be good for hundreds.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-01T15:34:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/37790/#p37790</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>elmoret wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>laird wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>digitydogs wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Got impatient and came up with another interesting solution to the issue until my dowel pins arrive....<br />Gator grip and square key from local hardware store.</p></blockquote></div><p>So, how did it work? Did the gator grip hold onto the motor axel well?</p></blockquote></div><p>That assembly is too long to fit within your enclosure.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, I went and measured a gator grip, and it&#039;s HUGE. There&#039;s only 3/4 of an inch between the end of the motor axle and the end of the feed screw. So tonight I&#039;ll be buying washers and taping them to the old (slower) motor axle to see if I can get that to work, even if it&#039;s not as cool/fast as the new motor. Washers are cheap, so if I have to keep crushing and replacing them, it&#039;s cheap, and at least Ill be extruding.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[laird]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3192/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-01T15:10:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>laird wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>digitydogs wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Got impatient and came up with another interesting solution to the issue until my dowel pins arrive....<br />Gator grip and square key from local hardware store.</p></blockquote></div><p>So, how did it work? Did the gator grip hold onto the motor axel well?</p></blockquote></div><p>That assembly is too long to fit within your enclosure.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[elmoret]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/221/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-01T04:30:41Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/37767/#p37767</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>digitydogs wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Got impatient and came up with another interesting solution to the issue until my dowel pins arrive....<br />Gator grip and square key from local hardware store.</p></blockquote></div><p>So, how did it work? Did the gator grip hold onto the motor axel well?</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[laird]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3192/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-10-01T04:27:25Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/37766/#p37766</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think a gauge block would work. But I&#039;m having trouble finding one locally. I think I&#039;ll try the washers again. And what the heck, ordered another set of pins to try with the original motor. :-) I&#039;ll beat this thing one way or another!</p><p>I got the nozzle off, cleared out a chunk of back/burnt gunk, the rest looked soft so I left it. I poked a 1.5 mm hex key into the nozzle while it was hot, and it went in a good half inch, so I think that&#039;s clear.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[laird]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3192/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2013-10-01T02:49:41Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/37758/#p37758</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, my washer last all about 30 seconds.&nbsp; I managed to get it to cooperate using a nail I chopped up around that size.&nbsp; Nails are hard enough.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[autoxer]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/2296/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-09-30T23:00:27Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.soliforum.com/post/37748/#p37748</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Free upgrade - Dowel Pin]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I ended up using a .050&quot; gauge block.... certainly not the best use for such a thing.&nbsp; However, they are usually the correct width (.375&quot;) and are hardened steel.&nbsp; Mine works great!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jmdw52]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/3538/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-09-30T13:39:30Z</updated>
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